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Quote: PC Plum "Roy has a long association with Powell from their South London Storm days so it is no surprise that his misguided loyalty/support is continued on here.

What I do find surprising is that a guy who clearly first and foremost supports St Helens comes on here pretending he has any serious interest in London Broncos. I suspect Roy is a troll.

And Roy, as you like dealing in facts, it is a fact that Powell is not up to the job of Super League Head Coach.'"


For the factual record :

On the subject of allegiances, I'm no different from hundreds of other London fans. I support London against every team except Saints. I see more London games live every year than Saints games, and I and my family have been season ticket holders at London while I've never been a season ticket holder at Saints. I'm not sure applying McCarthyite loyalty tests is the way to go to maintain or increase London's crowds. Suggesting I'm some sort of Saints troll just because I disagree with the majority view on this board is a bit off, to be honest.

I don't have a long association with RP from South London. I left the club to become a referee long before he arrived. I had several seasons where I reffed a couple of games at South London a year, and would talk to RP (and the opposing coach) when I was there. When I returned to the club briefly last year, RP was already long gone. I have no contact with RP, and haven't spoken to him now for nearly a year, when he kindly popped back to a South London training session last year to demonstrate a few drills and give the lads a boost. He's a good egg, but not a close personal friend, or indeed, a lover (as some seem to think). icon_kiss.gif

Obviously I do know him, though, and I'd be some kind of cold fish/psychopath to be publicly calling for someone I know and respect to have their rugby league career ended while still a very young man. So I'm unlikely to ever do that. That makes me a biased source, in historical terms. But all sources are biased to one extent or another. Some people decided before he'd been in charge for a single game that he was the wrong choice, and have seen nothing but negatives ever since. Others have pro-McDermott or anti-McDermott hats on. Some people think Ellis and Gale were top players, so that colours their view, and so on and so on. We're all biased. Doesn't mean we're all wrong all the time.

FWIW, I think that at present, the players on the field are not playing as well as they could or should, either individually, or as a team. RP will be working harder than anyone to try and address that, and hopefully there'll be some progress against Wakefield. Ultimately, if the players won't perform for him then either he or they will have to go. But I think it's a huge oversimplification to suggest that this is all about the coach. There is a malaise about the London club which has been present for several seasons now. There was a gradual reduction in playing talent during the McDermott years, with some good players leaving and not being replaced like for like, and some average players being rewarded with very long and very large contracts. A general sense of drift set in around the whole club which is reflected in crowds in particular. It's not a healthy place, and this board reflects that malaise. It's inevitable that "sack the coach" will be heard. It's part and parcel of the game. But the problems at Broncos go much deeper than that.

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Im not sure where he has got the necessary experience required to manage a SL club (tactics, fitness, selection) or equally manage individuals

Take the individual away and ask yourself

He has never played the game(Not crucial) but understanding what its like to be a player may help
He has no industry experience ie how to manage or work with people/ in teams in a variety of situations
He has only worked under 1 coach-Maybe working under several would broaden your approach to management possibly- we've all worked with managers with good and bad points and possibly shaped our approach on some of their traits.

With the above in mind does he really stand a chance- really

I just cant see how he can possibly succeed

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Quote: Roy Haggerty "For the factual record :

On the subject of allegiances, I'm no different from hundreds of other London fans. I support London against every team except Saints. I see more London games live every year than Saints games, and I and my family have been season ticket holders at London while I've never been a season ticket holder at Saints. I'm not sure applying McCarthyite loyalty tests is the way to go to maintain or increase London's crowds. Suggesting I'm some sort of Saints troll just because I disagree with the majority view on this board is a bit off, to be honest.

I don't have a long association with RP from South London. I left the club to become a referee long before he arrived. I had several seasons where I reffed a couple of games at South London a year, and would talk to RP (and the opposing coach) when I was there. When I returned to the club briefly last year, RP was already long gone. I have no contact with RP, and haven't spoken to him now for nearly a year, when he kindly popped back to a South London training session last year to demonstrate a few drills and give the lads a boost. He's a good egg, but not a close personal friend, or indeed, a lover (as some seem to think).
Good post... depressing though.

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Detailed analysis and smug, self-righteousness aside. Good coaches win games. Powell couldn't win a tombola. He's got a chance to turn things round. Let's hope he does it. I can't see it though.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Rob Powell's Super League record to date as head coach:

35 games, 1 draw, 7 wins and 27 losses. Points for 702 (22) Against 1,229 (35).

15 competition points from a ible 70....21.4%?

Please find me a professional sport where a manager would survive with a record like that?

BTW.....if we win on Saturday, his record will still only be 23.6%....unacceptable IMO.

If David Hughes, as has been claimed on here, financed this squad to be competative and as a result, attract investors and fans, then Powell has to go now, because the team at the moment will only attract flies the way they are performing. IMO that is.

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Castleford v Hull KR (-6)
Hull (-12) v Bradford
Leeds (-6) v Hudds
Salford v Wigan (-14)
Wire (-6) v Saints
Catalans (-26) v Widnes
London v Wakey (-2)

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I don't see this position as being Powell's last however it ends, but I cannot see him getting anything much in the heartlands. Maybe at best the opportunity to work with Mac. You couldn't see any full time club taking him on at Championship level either. Something like Head Coach at Hemel or one other of the new franchises would be suitable. Or maybe Gateshead Thunder. At 31 he would have 20 years or more in front of him but next time more likely from a realistic start.

If you were to pick a game in which you wanted to save your job you'd pick Wakefield as they have won just once in six visits to the Stoop and are not known for back to back performances. I'm surprised we are odds against at home against this team. Given that we have a full pack and are missing only one squad man and have played reasonably at home I'd think we should be evens.

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Quote: jbuzza "Of course it is his choice who he signs for but once the club withdrew any offer then his options did not include staying.'"




Justin Dooley. Find out about him and offers and withdrawing of offers. That was far, far worse than some geezer who strung the club along after being offered a contract only for the club to think they'll simply go and get someone else.

So once again, it's not the fault of the club.

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Now there's a blast from the past. Decent player.

Have to say I'm with Rooster on this one. IF the club offered a contract and set a date it had to be accepted by, and it wasn't, they are within their rights to withdraw their offer. A fairly standard negotiating tactic within the sporting world.

The issue of replacing Andy with like for like / better is altogether a different matter.

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Quote: Halfdan of t'wide embrace "Now there's a blast from the past. Decent player.

Have to say I'm with Rooster on this one. IF the club offered a contract and set a date it had to be accepted by, and it wasn't, they are within their rights to withdraw their offer. A fairly standard negotiating tactic within the sporting world.

The issue of replacing Andy with like for like / better is altogether a different matter.'"


Of course the club are within their rights to withdraw an offer but it doesn't look like we did it from the position of having a decent Plan B.

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Justin Dooley must be the most penalised player in SL history - at least as far as I can remember, which is basically Dooley being penalised all the time, strong runner though. In good company with Paul Davidson.

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Isn't he an investment banker now or something?

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Saints and sacking a coach. An example of a significant change in approach, attitude and desire to win.

If we win tomorrow we limp on to another half hearted effort or two under a coach who can't inspire at the team talk. Lets face it, after half time have we scored first or have the opp come out more inspired. Salford, Castleford from this year, add the rest. Last two years 20% win ratio overall. Exclude last year and its 12.5%. Win tomorrow and its 22% sounds like success.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Dave Lister "Isn't he an investment banker now or something?'"

you and your cockney rhyming slang icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Quote: Southern Reiver "Saints and sacking a coach. An example of a significant change in approach, attitude and desire to win.

If we win tomorrow we limp on to another half hearted effort or two under a coach who can't inspire at the team talk. Lets face it, after half time have we scored first or have the opp come out more inspired. Salford, Castleford from this year, add the rest. Last two years 20% win ratio overall. Exclude last year and its 12.5%. Win tomorrow and its 22% sounds like success.'"


What is Mike Rush's professonal record as a player like?



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