Couldn't agree more. Exactly what I've been trying to say myself in other, earlier posts. Well said, PTB.

It's even on the club website so must be true no more rah rah identity

We went in with Quins RU when they were a second tier union club with a view to merger. Since then the commercial success of RU has left us far behind and the merger is off, we are a tennant using the name on the door with no say in the brand.

We desperately need another body supporting us financially as well as David Hughes, otherwise at some point soon we are extinct. The only possibles I can think of are another millionaire, a local authority wanting to attract some business into their stadium/area, a football club wanting a partner not in football, or the RFL protecting their sky money with a southern club. None of these contributors will put any money into a brand owned by somebody else! I see the name change as a commercial necessity.

I love the Stoop as the best ground for club rugby inside the M25 and I am quite fond of Rugby Union as a game as well. Good luck to Quins RU and I hope they understand our problems.

Not only do we have the fewest fans but some of the stupidest.

Let's get one thing clear. We had no choice. We went bust.
We had two options available to us. VCA which was rejected or fold. We folded and only came back cuz a man with more vision than any one we've ever employed thought there could be merit in a dual code club. That it failed is not something to be proud of but just shows how narrow minded some of our fans are. They'd rather no RL than any RL.

I can see why we are looking at moving - it hasnt worked here. Will another move undermine all the work put in by the community club? Yes. Who will benefit from it if we move. Most likely Quins ru. Was this why the agreed to us moving in rent free, quite obviously.

Nothing would have made me more proud than to have seen Sykes score the win ing try at wembley and rip off his Quins top to reveal a bronco jersey an have him kiss the badge.

We've failed as Fulham crusaders and broncos so no surprise to see us failing as Quins. But for those who have stayed away. I hope youre happy that you keep RL in London the embarassment it is.

Apparently we're only allowed to spend maximum five years in any one guise before supporters decide its time we try something else and move on.

For fu$ks sake...

for me its a no-brainer we have to change back to the name of london,its clearly not worked the tie in with quins for me it was never going to for a start the name harlequins are one of least liked amonst union fans what chance did we have! before im labled as a union hater i met my current partner 14years ago at the stoop when we were broncos and shes was a quins fan watching a league game for the first time and we have enjoyed both codes since! this is more personal i guess but we need to move back to sundays so i can make a game lol, as for missing 5000 as one poster put it ive made a couple of games this year and i have noticed hundreds of missing faces from years before but then again im sure we"ve gained new ones so 5000 hummmm!

In the 4 years at Griffin Park the average gate was 3,704
The Average gate at The Stoop since 2006 is 3,596.

108 per game down.....not the thousands declared by the naysayer Rupe 1.

Interestingly, up until this season the difference was 17 fans.......and a team that is on a 12 game streak of not winning is entitled to shed a few fans.

If the club do change their name, I hope to god that they spend some serious money on the "M" word....

A few years ago just after we had become Quins I was at the Cats game in Perpignan and all the posters and match programme had us listed as London Harlequins. Also during that weekend my partner was interviewed on local french radio asking the question why not many people travel from london to away games! So if a change of name is required why not recognise our current history and our location? I can then keep both my london and quins shirts for ever.

I just can't understand all these sudden cries of loyalty to the Harlequin brand, what has it done for us? and more important what have they done for us, people get confused with the Union brand, not many of their fans took to us in fact they never wanted us really. Even on our own website when you go to Rugby League merchandise sooner or later the Union brand is pushed in your face, NO! we don't want to be part of that any longer.

Yes stay at The Stoop until we are able to have a stake in a ground but that has to be pushed as hard as possible, if we do get our licence renewed this time the very latest by the next licence application but the name Quins has to go now!

Right so its the Union club's fault we have poor crowds and hardly win at home.

Are you for real?

What did the "Broncos brand" ever do for us? A silly foreign soundng name inherited from an Aussie club and most casual sports fans in the Home Counties didn't even realise which sport we played, mostly assuming it was American football. And we went bust as Broncos.

In my experience most Quins union fans take a positive passing interest in our team; they might not turn up to watch games but look out for the results and want to see us win. The numbers with negative feelings for us are probably no greater than the numbers of anti-union Luddites in our own ranks.


I've never felt this impression myself. If you go to the league merchandise and open enough links eventually you'll see union merchandise, or stuff than can be equally applied to both codes.


Presuamably that's a royal "We", because you certainly don't speak on my behalf, or that of a fair number of others judging from the range of views in earlier posts.

Spot on. I see almost as many Quins RU shirts as I see RL ones when I stand on the platform at Clapham Junction. And although I've not been to a QRU game myself, I certainly bear them no ill will (although I confess to having a good laugh at their expense over bloodgate - a self-inflicted wound if you'll pardon the pun)

People seem to expect a name and a 'brand' to do wonders for us, on and off the pitch, to cure all ills. I hate to break it to some of you, but it requires sticking power, a winning team, and a financial model that washes its own face. Our current precarious financial position, as I keep having to say, is nothing to do with where we play, what we're called and what kit we wear.

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Wakefield and Castleford both apply to the local council for funding to build their new stadium(s)? When the council advised they could only afford to help fund one stadium there was talk for them having to merge in order to stay in SL??

With the RFL's help (oh no I mentioned the RFL may help us!!!) could we not propose a plan to the council (which one I don't know) or even Mr Boris Johnson and get help funding the build of a new stadium? If we sell it right and highlight the work the club do in communities blah blah...they may actually put a few quid in to get a stadium built....although it's not too likely until after the 2012 olympics...as any money for sport is going on that!

If we look at doing that in the long term it could work.

No football club with a stadium that meets the SL requirements is going to offer us a 50% share in the ground...no way - so we shouldn't even hope for that.

I think the options are stay at the Stoop or lobby for as many investors and backing as possible to build a new ground. In our present financial position....the Stoop is the only option.