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Quote: PC Plum "No, but they should and the RFL should make it a key perfomance indicator for their development staff.

They need to be exposed to our great game at a very early age, like they are to soccer and union. I say this as a father of a 7yo who I would dearly love to love league, but feel the draw of the mighty Arsenal might be too much if his basic league interest is not tapped into.

Oh and Fozzard, excellent post.'"



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Quote: Fozzard "
Its all very well to sit here and say a none of other clubs take 20s seriously, but as examples when you go to St Helens two thirds way through the season and they field Fozzard and Gardener and Wigan send down a side to Roehampton containing Karl Pryce and Palea'aesina, then you have to question that thought.

[Why on earth do you think this shows clubs take 20s seriously? 2 of the 4 players named did not get a contract renewal and KP is loaned to you guys. At least 2 of those players were recovering from injury during 2010. Giving these guys a contested hit out in the 20s is useful to the 1st team but does not make it a development route per se]

This is not the exception, but examples of what happened with some of the U20 teams we played against. With 3 over aged contracted players allowed to play in the side, it is the best tool we have of developing our players, it allows players to play learn and develop, and play against established super league players, which has to be key to any clubs player supply chain. Realistic game time is all you can ask for, and beats any training session.

[For quins this may be so. However the conclusions that you draw from results in the 20s ought to be informed by better understanding the opposition]
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Dave Lister is right on this.

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Learn to post properly if you want people to read what you have to say, as it is I won't bother.

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Quote: jbuzza "Learn to post properly if you want people to read what you have to say, as it is I won't bother.'"


Should I? Won't you? Oh dear.

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Quote: Ceejames "Should I? Won't you? Oh dear.'"

But it's a fair point. This has been a long and interesting argument with a few people making quite complex posts. If you don't structure your replies properly they become difficult to read and many, such as jbuzza and myself, just won't bother. Hence your ideas don't get across. It's your choice.

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Quote: BroncOnIon " jbuzza and myself, just won't bother. .'"


Then don't.

Or maybe post on the topic or on RL rather than rugby free comments on 'proper' posting structure.

Either way, fill your boots.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Bu99er me....
4th in the League, 3rd in the reserves League....it'll never catch on down here
Wakefield U20 2 2 0 0 92 34 4
Hull U20 2 2 0 0 55 20 4
Warrington U20 2 1 0 1 84 46 2
Leeds U20 3 1 0 2 68 76 2
Salford U20 3 1 0 2 58 130 2
Crusaders RL U20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
St Helens U20 1 0 0 1 14 28 0
Bradford U20 1 0 0 1 20 36 0
Hull KR U20 2 0 0 2 6 104 0
Huddersfield U20 3 0 0 3 22 139 0

Good to see the conveyer belt in East Hull paying dividends icon_lol.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Bu99er me....Good to see the conveyer belt in East Hull paying dividends
I make us joint top with a game in hand along with 3 others?

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Quote: gutterfax "Bu99er me....
4th in the League, 3rd in the reserves League....it'll never catch on down here
Wakefield U20 2 2 0 0 92 34 4
Hull U20 2 2 0 0 55 20 4
Warrington U20 2 1 0 1 84 46 2
Leeds U20 3 1 0 2 68 76 2
Salford U20 3 1 0 2 58 130 2
Crusaders RL U20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
St Helens U20 1 0 0 1 14 28 0
Bradford U20 1 0 0 1 20 36 0
Hull KR U20 2 0 0 2 6 104 0
Huddersfield U20 3 0 0 3 22 139 0

Good to see the conveyer belt in East Hull paying dividends

Defensive numbers look very impressive. Conceding an average of only 8 points per game!!! Better than any club in the league.

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Am just wondering how many players people think go from U20s to first grade contract in the NRL? Or indeed, play an NRL game whilst still in U20s.

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Quote: gutterfax "...it'll never catch on down here
Haere mai GF.

What un wundy wullington cuz?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Rooster Booster "Haere mai GF.

What un wundy wullington cuz?'"

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Rooster Booster "Am just wondering how many players people think go from U20s to first grade contract in the NRL? Or indeed, play an NRL game whilst still in U20s.'"

I believe that the numbers are increasing year on year.....and that over time more and more NRL players will come through the ranks. SL is behind the NRL, but the model that they have put in place should start to get the same results.

For example...in this extract taken from the Dom Post site here in Wellington (rlLINK HERErl)

[iThe Junior Warriors proved too strong for their South Sydney opponents as they out-scored the Bunnies 42-28 in the under-20 grand final.

Names like Shaun Johnson, Elijah Taylor, Ben Henry, Glen Fisiiahi and Sam Lousi look set to be in the premier team in the coming years but championship success does come at a price.

Already the Warriors have lost Nafe Seluini (Penrith) and Elijah Niko (Melbourne) to other teams and will lose more if the juniors defend their title in 2011.
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You are never going to build your first ream entirely from your reserves or academy, but surely this model is better than the one currently employed in East Hull?

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Quote: gutterfax "I believe that the numbers are increasing year on year.....and that over time more and more NRL players will come through the ranks. SL is behind the NRL, but the model that they have put in place should start to get the same results.

For example...in this extract taken from the Dom Post site here in Wellington (rlLINK HERErl)

[iThe Junior Warriors proved too strong for their South Sydney opponents as they out-scored the Bunnies 42-28 in the under-20 grand final.

Names like Shaun Johnson, Elijah Taylor, Ben Henry, Glen Fisiiahi and Sam Lousi look set to be in the premier team in the coming years but championship success does come at a price.

Already the Warriors have lost Nafe Seluini (Penrith) and Elijah Niko (Melbourne) to other teams and will lose more if the juniors defend their title in 2011.
[/i

You are never going to build your first ream entirely from your reserves or academy, but surely this model is better than the one currently employed in East Hull?'"


Don't think your belief is right on this occasion GF.

Of those kids mentioned not all got full time contracts and only one of them is named to play 1st grade this weekend. In fact, Elijah Taylor is playing in the reserves:

www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s= ... y&id=34095
Quote: gutterfax "I believe that the numbers are increasing year on year.....and that over time more and more NRL players will come through the ranks. SL is behind the NRL, but the model that they have put in place should start to get the same results.

For example...in this extract taken from the Dom Post site here in Wellington (rlLINK HERErl)

[iThe Junior Warriors proved too strong for their South Sydney opponents as they out-scored the Bunnies 42-28 in the under-20 grand final.

Names like Shaun Johnson, Elijah Taylor, Ben Henry, Glen Fisiiahi and Sam Lousi look set to be in the premier team in the coming years but championship success does come at a price.

Already the Warriors have lost Nafe Seluini (Penrith) and Elijah Niko (Melbourne) to other teams and will lose more if the juniors defend their title in 2011.
[/i

You are never going to build your first ream entirely from your reserves or academy, but surely this model is better than the one currently employed in East Hull?'"


Don't think your belief is right on this occasion GF.

Of those kids mentioned not all got full time contracts and only one of them is named to play 1st grade this weekend. In fact, Elijah Taylor is playing in the reserves:

www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s= ... y&id=34095


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