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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: gutterfax "It's all pi55 and wind until we average more than 5k anyway. To be treated as an equal, you need cash...cash comes from investors, sponsors and fans.......we have no sponsor, 1 investor who got jittery at the end of last year and very few fans.
I have suggested before (once or twice0 that to get investors and sponsors you need fans first...something I get barracked for repeating on here
So you'll be agreeing with me then when I argue about the RFL being happy to provide funding for Championship clubs to try to entice a ' sugar daddy ' when what you need foremost is more fans , then the corporate support will follow that , not the other way round

Some businessman comes for a day/night out at the RL and sees a stadium 90 percent empty , it isn't going to encourage him to invest if the locals aren't bothered , then why should he ?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: gutterfax "as the bug will no doubt tell you..Leigh get nothing from any of the money spent on food and booze at their stadium......the council sell the franchises to the highest bidder......'"


The principle behind modern stadia is that rather than a 20/25 day a year usage , they need 365 days a year usage, that's why Warrington don't have a supporters bar , just after the HJ was built I visited it and the management at the club , I was given a personal tour of the ground and asked many questions , at the time what was the rear of the now ' Martin Dawes ' stand was being developed , I asked if that was to be a club bar , the reply was no , not much point with two pubs directly outside the ground , a health centre that pays them rent 52 weeks a year was the reply

As GF has alluded to we get sod all from the LSV , we have lost over a hundred grandsworth of sales a year , plus tens of thousands worth of stadium advertising , even if the stadium had been able to pul in some ' naming rights ' it would just get swallowed up by the excessive costs due to public sector management

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Quote: Starbug "The principle behind modern stadia is that rather than a 20/25 day a year usage , they need 365 days a year usage, that's why Warrington don't have a supporters bar , just after the HJ was built I visited it and the management at the club , I was given a personal tour of the ground and asked many questions , at the time what was the rear of the now ' Martin Dawes ' stand was being developed , I asked if that was to be a club bar , the reply was no , not much point with two pubs directly outside the ground , a health centre that pays them rent 52 weeks a year was the reply

As GF has alluded to we get sod all from the LSV , we have lost over a hundred grandsworth of sales a year , plus tens of thousands worth of stadium advertising , even if the stadium had been able to pul in some ' naming rights ' it would just get swallowed up by the excessive costs due to public sector management

It makes me
It needs to be the right deal, and it sounds like the Leigh directors didnt act like hard nosed businessmen.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Tre Cool "It needs to be the right deal, and it sounds like the Leigh directors didnt act like hard nosed businessmen.'"


Already been discussed , if you don't know the circumstances you don't have a clue

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Quote: daftdad "Leyton Orient to move into the olympic stadium with West Ham freeing up Orients ground for RL in the east end of london.'"


Leyton Orient no longer own the ground, it is owned by a separate company that their Chairman is heavily involved in. If the O's do move on I'd suggest it is unlikely the ground will survive as the terms of the sale seem to mean the money would be split between the company and The O's which would probably suit both of them. With flats all but built into the stadium planning permission for further residential development would seem likely.

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Quote: daftdad "Leyton Orient to move into the olympic stadium with West Ham freeing up Orients ground for RL in the east end of london.'"


Leyton Orient no longer own the ground, it is owned by a separate company that their Chairman is heavily involved in. If the O's do move on I'd suggest it is unlikely the ground will survive as the terms of the sale seem to mean the money would be split between the company and The O's which would probably suit both of them. With flats all but built into the stadium planning permission for further residential development would seem likely.

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The Polytechnic Stadium, Chiswick is up for sale. Just about the right size too!

www.novaloca.com/property-detail ... earch=true
The Polytechnic Stadium, Chiswick is up for sale. Just about the right size too!

www.novaloca.com/property-detail ... earch=true


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Wonder what that would cost lease hold?

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Quote: windy one 2010 "Wonder what that would cost lease hold?'"


Who cares?
It has 1 stand.....it would be the worst SL ground and worse than some in the Championship too.....and as for the people that complain about getting to the stoop....this place is served by 1 mainline trainline with 1 train every 20 minutes d040.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Who cares?
It has 1 stand.....it would be the worst SL ground and worse than some in the Championship too.....and as for the people that complain about getting to the stoop....this place is served by 1 mainline trainline with 1 train every 20 minutes
Sorry I asked icon_surprised.gifops:

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: windy one 2010 "Sorry I asked ...it has a 500 seater stand. If we are kicked out of SL it would be perfect for us to buy and develop with a view to re-applying in 6 years or so.....but as it is, we need a ground we can grow into.....
wasn't having a pop windy.....and if we could sort out access and 3 other stands, it would be an option of sorts. How much do East Hull pay for the golf stand?

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Ah fond memories, it always seemed to rain at Chiswick!

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How inspiring as usual to read comments from the usual gloom merchants, David Hughes was simply answering a question posed to him, if he had answered no London RL will never have its own stadium the same people would have been whining in the same voice, no ambition!

None of us know the long term implications with The Stoop and Harlequins RU? Every club an business must or should have a long term business plan, not just pipe dreams or also having the safe option all the time as pure existence and no revenue channels other than match day revenue and merchandise.

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Quote: gutterfax "Who cares?
It has 1 stand.....it would be the worst SL ground and worse than some in the Championship too.....and as for the people that complain about getting to the stoop....this place is served by 1 mainline trainline with 1 train every 20 minutes We seemed to manage quite nicely there for five seasons, albeit in the old second division h025.gif Seriously, it would make a good centre for RL development and it could be used for our reserve and junior sides but the cost would be beyond us so the RFL might have to cough up some money there. Incidentally, in our time the seating capacity was 625 - you really can't trust estate agents!

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "We seemed to manage quite nicely there for five seasons, albeit in the old second division
Its a tough call. We would want a ground that we could, as gutters says, grow into. 500 is a pretty low starting number. If we were going to satisfy SL Licensing matters, we would need the planning permission and the finance in place to completely redevelop the site for a capacity of, say, 10,000? Going any lower seems pretty pointless even taking into account our current gates. At the moment it certainly isn't fit for purpose.

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