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I have followed the LONDON CLUB since I was in my teensl even though born in St Helens and still live nearby and went to the first game at Fulham, also Big West Ham Supporter:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1649.jpg



Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "What intrigues me is that the provision that the RFL can force someone to dispose of their shareholding in a club would seem to really exist.'"



Not sure what you mean as I believe it is simple and there is no intrigue at the least? any governing body can have it's own rules and bye-laws and if you sign up to them, then you are deemed to accept them and should adhere to them. Do the Premiership not have the same ruling and no one in football seems to get upset about it?

IL was given a time period to dispose of his share in the club, during that time he made no financial input as far as we are aware, meanwhile DH was left to carry all of the burden with his much lesser share. Is sport not like any business owning shares in any company is a risk and you accept that. The Radio Station I worked all my career for was the first to float on the market at around £6 and at one time they dropped to at under 50p, many staff panicked and sold at 75p, some were wise and then bought in even more in there thousands and made a killing when in time the recovered. No it is right that IL should be forced to dispose and he should accept he is not going to get top dollar, it does not help when their is little assets!

The period you go on to talk about is pre-Super League and the game was run much differently then.

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Quote: gutterfax "Some left because of the tie in with a Union brand and they are no loss. '"

This from a (self-proclaimed) marketing expert is quite ridiculous. Any supporter going away is a loss.


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The average gate for a london RL game since 2000 is 3,607.
The highest average in those 11 seasons was as Harlequins in 2006...the lowest was 3,232 as The Broncos in 2001.
The core support at Harlequins RL has pretty much stayed the same over the 11 years......some have drifted, some have left the country, but true fans never stop supporting their team.'"

The numbers may be about the same, but the people aren't. Of the bunch of people, all of them committed season ticket holders for a number of seasons, who used to sit in the same patch as I did a Brentford, only about 25% now attend. Yes, some of them have moved to other parts of the country, but many haven't, they've just given up on the club. If we'd retained all of those and you could apply the same percentages across other supporters, we'd have regular gates of 5,000 now (which was always Nic Cartwright's Holy Grail).

Ah says g'fax, these were not "true fans". Total rubbish!

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Back on thread...........none of us know quite what will be announced on Friday.

I am as guilty as many others for moaning and groaning about the club`s situation, but whatever our plight David Hughes deserves to be given our full support and we should show our appreciation on Friday. The man has given so much to keep this club afloat over the years, can we not for once drop the marketing debate from a thread and focus on the huge positive which is David Hughes..........you can market all you like but no DH = no club.

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So what could be the positive news – debate ….

Quins RL financially viable for 2011 and beyond ?

Quins RL announce new multi millionaire investor ?

Quins RL taken over by union club ?

LMS resigns for Quins RL ?

Luke Dorn leaves for Saints ? icon_biggrin.gif

Quins RL sign Steve Menzies and a top class scrum half ?

Quins RL announce John Kear as their new coach ?

So come on what else might there be out there ....

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I think all it will be is taht we are carrying on next year - beyond that who knows unless another fairy godperson with a bag of cash turns up.

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Welcome to The Stoop - The Field of Dreams.......Where Broncos supporters dreams are realised and away supporters dreams are shattered !!!!! 2012 - The Year of The Broncos:



Quote: Paddock Punter "I think all it will be is taht we are carrying on next year - beyond that who knows unless another fairy godperson with a bag of cash turns up.'"


I'm waving my wand over my midweek draw tickets as a type this icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: PC Plum "So what could be the positive news – debate ….

Quins RL financially viable for 2011 and beyond ?

Quins RL announce new multi millionaire investor ?

Quins RL taken over by union club ?

LMS resigns for Quins RL ?

Luke Dorn leaves for Saints ?
A new multi millionaire investor!
Signing Menzies and a top class scrum half(Gareth Moore eusa_think.gif )
John Kear as new coach
LMS to sign a new 10-year deal icon_beat.gif
Will Sharp to change his mind on a move to Hull and stays to become our number 1 prop next season eusa_whistle.gif

Or maybe not!!!!!

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Quote: Under the sticks "Back on thread...........none of us know quite what will be announced on Friday.

I am as guilty as many others for moaning and groaning about the club`s situation, but whatever our plight David Hughes deserves to be given our full support and we should show our appreciation on Friday. The man has given so much to keep this club afloat over the years, can we not for once drop the marketing debate from a thread and focus on the huge positive which is David Hughes..........you can market all you like but no DH
Fair 'nough. Back on thread I can only agree with you and as it's only 2 days away I won't waste time speculating.

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people are staying away because the club aren't winning. Simple.

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I've worked it out - Steve McGee's entering the 2011 'Slimmer of the Year' contest icon_biggrin.gif

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Allez Les Catalans! [quote="Johnny Rotten":11m80glq]Ever get the feeling you've been cheated[/quote:11m80glq] [quote="John_D":11m80glq]Bobbie Goulding, can you hear me? Your British lads (Barrett, Richards, Vaealiki, Leuluai etc etc etc) took one hell of a beating.[/quote:11m80glq] [quote="eurob0y replying to Chris Dalton":11m80glq] Well ok, so if we apply your logic, this means that you can never ever give your opinion of who you think is a good rugby league player, because you support widnes and therefore wouldnt know a good rugby league player if he smacked you in the face with a 3 eyed fish[/quote:11m80glq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33363.jpg



Pete Winkelman is looking for year round use of Stadium MK & as such has bought the club & is moving it to Milton Keynes where it will be renamed as MK Quins. As a sop to the london based fans a new club will be started up playing in Championship1.

I really,really hope I'm wrong though as i've had some enjoyable trips to the Stoop

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Quote: Paddock Punter "I can't buy into this - people drifting away because of the mis management of the club. Liverpool FC are being mis managed big time but they still get full houses, anti glazer faction at Man U set up another club but Man U still get full houses. Wigan under Mo for the last years would seem to be mismanaged but attracted big crowds.

How has the club been mismanaged? quote]

It's silly to compare the club to Liverpool or Manure. If they lose a bunch of fans, for whatever reason, there are thousands of others waiting for the chance to buy tickets in their place.

Quins mismanagement has been constant and enduring. It's the only thing this club actually does well. Every week there are examples on this very board, some petty and some ridiculous, but some of them have been downright abysmal from the club. Fans moan but usually forget about it, until eventually it builds to the point where they realise that the club is going nowhere and they're simply wasting their time. That's when they decide to watch Leeds v Huddersfield on sky instead of going to the Stoop. From there it's a short journey to not bothering with the season ticket and just picking and choosing games. Then they realise they haven't been at all that season. Then they're lost to the club.

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Quote: DAIHAPPY "Pete Winkelman is looking for year round use of Stadium MK & as such has bought the club & is moving it to Milton Keynes where it will be renamed as MK Quins. As a sop to the london based fans a new club will be started up playing in Championship1.

I really,really hope I'm wrong though as i've had some enjoyable trips to the Stoop'"


what a hilariously stupid suggestion. Kudos.

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Think PP has it right. Reckon it will just be a case of we've got another season.

Problem is, it's so late in the day to be able to build a squad for next year, I worry that the team will be as weak as this year and we'll end up in the same boat.

Still, at least it sounds like the Mighty Quins will be around for everyone to moan about! icon_smile.gif

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Can I just say I really hope things work out for you. I'm not sure if the tie up with Quins was the best move for you but you will have a much better insight into that than I.

The trip to your club is always one of most Wigan fans highlights of the year, in fact second only to Catalan. Again good luck and I hope it is a positive announcement.

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