What part of my response was pathetic?



What are you going on about? Where have I said this? You don't understand the point here at all do you? Do you think the purpose of this game is an extra present for regular supporters? I'm glad you treat potential new supporters as "moaning late comers" who "drag their backsides along". That seems to be the club's attitude too. Supporters are welcome to purchase tickets well in advance and that's great, but not when the club offer no half decent alternative for others.



Again, you have massive blinkers on here and are failing to see the wider issue here. All of which is true, its great value, but that isn't the point.





Totally ridiculous. Yes, a few people who look at the bigger picture on a Quins RL forum for Quins RL supporters have a bigger influence on bringing in/detering new supporters than the MARKETING deparment do. Do you really believe this?

I think your the one who is going off at a tangent......present for supporters, club attitude????

I fully understand accept that it would have been good to have all of the stands available and to be offered a wider seating choice., but if you are a late comer why would you be surprised that a seat on the half way line is not available. If you were flying off on holiday, arrived late at the airport and could only get a rubbish seat on the aircraft......would you demand they put on another plane, go home in a strop, swear that you will never go on holiday again, write a letter of complaint to the airline.....no, you would just get on with it.

Regarding the level of negativity on this board.........if you can`t appreciate that it is OTT and a likely turn off for a new fan, then I`m afraid it is you who are wearing the blinkers.

You were the one whinging at the idea that late comers would be treated well in the slightest, and that only supporters who order well in advance should enjoy a decent seat.



What a ridiculous example, but I suppose it shows how you are missing the point. If I walked into the airport and asked for a seat and was given a rubbish one, I would accept it if that was all that was left. If the plane was 2/3 empty and seats were there untaken but I couldn't sit there, I would be fairly upset. I probably wouldn't fly with that airline again either if that is how they treat their passengers. I don't think I need to go on any further as hopefully you grasp the problem now.



I don't see any undue negativity. New supporters are unlikely to vet a forum and make their choices on the basis of what people are saying on here.

But then, if you continue thinking that the club operating in this fashion is good for business, then fine, it'll be the "negative" posters that'll be here in 2 years time telling you "we told you so" as you sit there clueless as to why we didn't get a license as apparently everything right now is sound.

No whinging from me......I`ve got a good seat......booked early.

Regarding the example.....good to see that you would accept all that was left......and have grasped the situation.

Good to see that you accept the negativity on the basis that a potential supporter might not view the forum...let`s hope that works.

Regarding my own approach........as previously stated (but you choose to ignore) I can appreciate the club is not in good shape and can moan like anyone else........but I have not turned into a career. I have supported the club this far and if they are still around in a couple of years so will I.

Listy.......you are tell us quite often that the club are making a complete hash of everything, management is poor, improvement is required etc etc........perhaps you could expand on your experience in these areas and let us know what your business credentials are?

Have to pick up on this point, it's a sports forum, same as a million others the world over in every sport conceivable and by the nature of all sports forums [although possibly slightly more jaundiced for RL] polarised opinion will abound dependant upon results, players, coaches, tactics, Boards, facilites, opposition etc etc.

I truly cannot fathom why anybody who was considering being a new fan in any sport and who had searched the Internet to find a forum concerning their newly chosen team, would then abandon watching said team because of what they read on the Forum, contrary or otherwise to their own newly formed opinions..........if that was the case nobody would be watching any SL club this weekend let alone filling the stadiums for PL football.

When I first started to watch the Broncos my interest was increased by using Steve Morris's fantastic original Forum, but trust me that was a far more negative place to be than here [depending on what was happening at any given time with the club] but it didn;t make one iota of difference to my opinion of the sport and the club.

The only place that could suffer as a result of negativity on a sports forum, is that forum itself, but by their very nature and within moderate boundaries, they are and should be places to express all opinions negative or otherwise.

Carry on now with the Listy baiting

Are Listy's followers called the Listerines?

None from me either, I haven't got a seat and don't intend booking one either.



Yes because that's exactly what I said. I suggest you read it again and have a long hard think about it.



If any new supporter is unhappy with my posts, PM me and I will buy them a beer as an apology when they come to the Hull Away game.



You continue to muse about how the club opening 1 stand is acceptable and that its tough luck for any moaning later comers dragging their backsides along who are shoved in the front row while you enjoy your great seat, even though you would have come to the match regardless of where you sat. I have supported the club this far too, it doesn't sound like you will be particularly bothered when things go tits up in 2 years time though.



Perhaps you could expand on the things that you disagree with me about and where the club have done a spiffing job.

I'm finishing a business related degree this year with plenty of marketing involved in it, so don't you worry, I'll be putting my hand up when the time comes and could do a damn sight better than the current monkeys running the club

So your not going to the game....just about says it all really

Read it again....thought about it...already commented

Supporters not liking your posts........ever asked yourself why quite a few long term supporters (who still go to matches) do not bother posting on this forum any longer?

I am not musing about anything.....there is only one (possibly 2) stand/s open, accept the situation......I`ve got a good seat, you haven`t.

I have been a long term supporter, why would I not be bothered by the club going under?.........you can do better than that Listy.

I don`t profess to have any marketing/sales ability but you do........however I see you are still at school and have never had a job!!! Forgive me if I do not hold your business advice in to higher regard

Yup, don't have the money sadly. What does that say about anything?



Nope. This isn't a concern for me like it obviously is to you. Why is this then? Any examples?



Couldn't care less about my seat or yours. Again, your are failing to see the wider picture. Try reading Prince of Denmark's post again, maybe that will make it a bit clearer for you.



You seem to be fairly unconcerned with the club implementing strategies that will drive away new supporters rather than attracting them.

Now Now Ladies!!

"Nope. This isn't a concern for me like it obviously is to you. Why is this then? Any examples?"

Like you say you are not bothered by other supporters (and I`m the one with wrong attitude?).....take a look back yourself, it should not take long to identify who does not post anymore or a lot less frequently....GOB, DSWG and others

Have read Prince of Denmarks post and already said that it would be good to have more stands open (you really must concentrate)

Apparently I am unconcerned about the plight of the club.........care to point out where I have actually said that?.......or does it only feature in `Listy World`

Good luck with the degree......you might need it. Why would I be scared of anyone doing something positive at the club, I welcome it........it would be great if the club were successful. Are you the person to turn things around?........I`ll get back to you.

Maybe The Gob and DSWG have better things to do than post on here? The Gob and I have exchanged text messages lately (apologies I didn't reply last time btw Mike), and last time I saw DSWG at a home game we had a chat. I think you're reading a bit too much into things. I don't think they have any problems with me anyway, nor any other users.



Interesting how you still think your plane examples holds up then...



Do you retract your comment describing people who have the nerve not to buy a ticket in advance, and how they should be treated?



Cheers, degree is going well thanks. I'd like to see someone turn things around, but it won't be the current incumbents. Obviously the fundamental problem lies elsewhere but this is more clear cut, and you never know, maybe there was some evidence last week of this being sorted out.

"I don't think they have any problems with me anyway, nor any other users."...........and you accuse me of being blinkered!!

Yup example still holds........the whole stadium is not was is `actually` on offer, therefore if you want a ticket you have to make the best of what is available.

" Do you retract your comment describing people who have the nerve not to buy a ticket in advance, and how they should be treated?".........No, why should I......("have the nerve" is a nice emotive addition on your part by the way)..........I merely stated the facts, I planned ahead and have bought a good seat......if you drag your feet, backside, whatever, you can only make the best of what tickets are left. You made the bit up about `how they should be treated`.