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Quote: wire-quin "Im confused-What customer service are we to expect when attending a rugby game

I have a seat in a modern stand/ground
I have access to a comfortable bar/toilets
My season ticket turns up before the season starts
The turnstiles are manned with no queueing
I have access to stewards should I have a problem

Get yourself to the Jungle and see what they get.
Having spent many a season on the terraces at Wilderspool I can tell you I feel spoilt at the Stoop.

My belief is because we have access to the players and chairman etc some may feel they own the club ie like shareholders. Go to Wigan, Warrington, Hull etc and you get a pint under the stand in the corridor, go to your seat/terrace, watch the game, then leave. No access to anything(unless you pay corporate), no interaction with players/club staff - nothing'"


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Unfortunately when business decisions are made not everyone will be happy. If these people with long service under their belts leave that is a sad day, but sadly the business must make decisions, rightly or wrongly for the good of the greater club and the future.

Maybe PB feels the club needs a new direction as the past philosophy has shown the crowd is decreasing and he is going to target a new audience-I dont know

£100 for a seasons top flight rugby league sat in a modern stadium is a magnificent deal.

As I have said we are spoilt with what we have. Lots of away fans say what a great match day experience they have at the Stoop. Does that not tell a story.

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Quote: Briali1 "In my block (AG), I will be paying £49 (Student).

Not because I can't sit in the seat that I want to sit in or some nasty Northerner is occupying my seat or theres a walkway in front of me.

I wonder if all these people moaning and threatening the club with the withdrawl of their season tickets will

Lister you have no right to call people stupid and liars simply because they do not want the same degree of customer service that you want. You are happy to buy the cheapest ticket, sit where you want and that is your prerogative there is absolutely nothing wrong with that whatsoever, you have the same freedom of choice as everyone else and I am pleased you are happy with your match day. I guess a number of people will be happy with the situation but the point you are continually missing is that not everyone is.

Some people want to help the club in their own way by buying the most expensive season ticket and give the club a chance to get a fair bit of money in the bank before the season starts. This does not mean they are wealthy or have loads of money and can afford it, it means they want to do their bit for the club. If they withdraw their purchase of a season ticket that doesn't make them stupid but they possibly feel it is the only way to make the club realise they are no longer prepared to accept whatever the club want to throw at them , these are decent people with a genuine grievance.

The people you have called liars are the people who are the very back bone of this club and have been for a number of years and with a lot of them before you were even a twinkle in your parent’s eye. Some maybe not quite as long but still a vast number of years of support behind them. When these people say they have had enough then it should be listened to, they are not people who will walk away from the club at the drop of a hat, they are people who have given their all, in every way possible blood, sweat and tears. Some of them have cleaned up after games, some have given money to keep the team afloat, some have financially helped and paid for goods out of their own pocket, some have provided places for meetings and the list goes on. They are not people who will walk away because of losing on the pitch

Don't disrespect people just because they don't agree with you. Stop and think maybe an older head knows when things aren't right and you should understand they have a lot of intelligence and also a lot of experience in their understanding of the club. One day you may be lucky enough to complete the amount of years service some of these people have given and you may view things differently. You could however still live in your insular glass house still believing everyone else is wrong.'"


Oh my god. Could you be any more patronising? Why are you getting all offended and defensive?

So seemingly these people pay lots of money and the rest of us should shut up because we've not supported the team for so long. We cannot have an opinion on anything. Only the gold season ticket holders who are tossing their season tickets away should be considered. They go from wanting to give money to the club by buying expensive tickets to not buying a season ticket at all?! Great! Fantastic!

Oh boo hoo, the backbone of the club have had enough, I really could not care less if they are all self-righteous snobs like you come across on here. And I bet if we won the SL they would be first in the queue for season tickets next season proclaiming how their contribution was so vital. But hey, lets not go back to the point I was actually trying to make but turn it back to "they've supported the club for longer so they must be considered". Ignore that.

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Well done Wirequin for putting the thing in context.

However, there is no reason why we should not try to improve things. Shame on the fans of the clubs mentioned for not campaigning for more, but there are a few things that could and should be improved so why not.

PS I spent my formative years at the The Hut End at the Willows, crumbling terracing, a tea hut, open concrete smelly bogs ........it still makes me smile, it felt like heaven, but that was because the team improved year on year for about ten years. All things are relative.

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Quote: wire-quin "Unfortunately when business decisions are made not everyone will be happy. If these people with long service under their belts leave that is a sad day, but sadly the business must make decisions, rightly or wrongly for the good of the greater club and the future.

Maybe PB feels the club needs a new direction as the past philosophy has shown the crowd is decreasing and he is going to target a new audience-I dont know

£100 for a seasons top flight rugby league sat in a modern stadium is a magnificent deal.

As I have said we are spoilt with what we have. Lots of away fans say what a great match day experience they have at the Stoop. Does that not tell a story.'"


Spot on WQ. I would never consider paying £300 for a season ticket and don't feel the need to. I am happy with watching 80 minutes of RL and plenty of others are too.

As you say, away fans love the trip to The Stoop, but apparently nothing is good enough for our supporters and even though they are such MASSIVE supporters and have been since the Fulham days, the club is in the worst state it has ever been in and aren't worth supporting anymore. Honestly, if people have this attitude I could not care less that they are walking away, take it in a new direction and get plenty of paying punters through the gates to enjoy the day instead of those continually whining and complaining about the side of the ground that is open and how badly they are apparently being treated.

Quins RL is not a support group or a creche, its a professional RL team. If you feel you need more than this than I suggest taking up another more social hobby. Or maybe the church.

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PP- PB has explained in his letter why we are staying put. He has referenced the supporters opinions but has ultimately come up with the business decision - East stand- We are not fully informed as to why but why should we be- but Im happy to accept it.

How much better does it get? 5 metres closer with 2 inches more leg room. Not significant I would suggest-Only my opinion.

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Well said Wire and Listy.

I cannot believe some of the stuff I'm reading on here.

OK, I would prefer being seated in the West stand but the East stand is fine and has great facilities (particularly if you compare it to the majority of RL grounds!).

Bottom line is that it's too expensive to open up the West stand for the supporter base we have at the moment (and PB does say that the situation will be reviewed, which presumably means that when we have enough fans, we will be able to have both stands open).

The new season ticket prices are fantastic value and I certainly will be renewing mine.

BTW, I wonder how many of you would be reacting like this had we received these letters after the HKR game?

It seems to me that we are winning one competition this year. I thought it was between Bradford and Hull, but I now realise that we are fore-runners for the title "Most Miserable Bunch of Whining G*t League Fans".

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I'm looking forward to next season already (for obvious reasons).

A few beers before the game, easy to get the the stadium, 80 minutes of Professional Rugby League (hopefully watching a stronger side playing entertaining stuff), a beer after, home. This formula seems to work well for most other sides.

Imagine the hellish experience I have to go through when watching Leeds every so often. I often have to QUEUE to get into the South Stand. If its busy, which it often is, I am often forced into one of the blocks towards either end of the stand. I stand there for 80 minutes, the toilets are a disgrace, the bar is unpleasant and expensive. After the match the facilities are diabolical - I can sit in the Supporters Club and queue up for an hour for a beer and a stand up in a cramped unpleasant environment. I can then retreat to one of the Greene King pubs in the vicinity of the ground.

But hey, Leeds are going alright crowdwise aren't they? I don't hear there supporters tearing up their season tickets.

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Quote: Dave Lister "I'm looking forward to next season already (for obvious reasons).

A few beers before the game, easy to get the the stadium, 80 minutes of Professional Rugby League (hopefully watching a stronger side playing entertaining stuff), a beer after, home. This formula seems to work well for most other sides.

Imagine the hellish experience I have to go through when watching Leeds every so often. I often have to QUEUE to get into the South Stand. If its busy, which it often is, I am often forced into one of the blocks towards either end of the stand. I stand there for 80 minutes, the toilets are a disgrace, the bar is unpleasant and expensive. After the match the facilities are diabolical - I can sit in the Supporters Club and queue up for an hour for a beer and a stand up in a cramped unpleasant environment. I can then retreat to one of the Greene King pubs in the vicinity of the ground.

But hey, Leeds are going alright crowdwise aren't they? I don't hear there supporters tearing up their season tickets.'"


No, because they watch a quality exciting side every other week whereas Harlequins provide barely super league quality players dishing out the most boring rugby league in the country, that doesn't matter though does it with your masturbatory self congratulating support putting you head and shoulders over anyone who doesn't like the product.

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Quote: rupe1 "No, because they watch a quality exciting side every other week whereas Harlequins provide barely super league quality players dishing out the most boring rugby league in the country, that doesn't matter though does it with your masturbatory self congratulating support putting you head and shoulders over anyone who doesn't like the product.'"


Have you actually been reading what I have posted recently you clueless buffoon?

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Quote: wire-quin "Im confused-What customer service are we to expect when attending a rugby game

I have a seat in a modern stand/ground
I have access to a comfortable bar/toilets
My season ticket turns up before the season starts
The turnstiles are manned with no queueing
I have access to stewards should I have a problem

Get yourself to the Jungle and see what they get.
Having spent many a season on the terraces at Wilderspool I can tell you I feel spoilt at the Stoop.

My belief is because we have access to the players and chairman etc some may feel they own the club ie like shareholders. Go to Wigan, Warrington, Hull etc and you get a pint under the stand in the corridor, go to your seat/terrace, watch the game, then leave. No access to anything(unless you pay corporate), no interaction with players/club staff - nothing'"



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Cool gus and gals.
You carry on being delighted that the 300 visiting fans enjoy themselves and enjoy getting top level rugby for £100 a year with a few beers and a natter with friends. That's what the game is all about. It's why I got hooked on it, but alas, professional curiosity also kicked in as to why more people don't come to games and it has been a bit of a hobby for a few years now. But I always enjoy game day and will miss a lot of the friends I have made over the years.

For the record, I have never slagged off the Stoop. I actually like it! What I have said is that in my opinion the club has been badly managed in the past and there appears to be no visable signs of improvement. Again, I would love to be proven wrong, but I think you will have a hard time finding evidence of anything ground breaking in the back office......
Maybe 2010 is the year of the Quin? I really hope so.

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Quote: Homer "Stands full facing each other for the banter? total rubbish as usual.

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Same with many of the grounds we've played at.

Mind I did prefer the old west stand, a tad more exclusive icon_lol.gif

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Concentrating on the contents of yesterday’s letter from the club for the benefit of anyone who didn’t receive it:

They’ve effectively removed one of the existing price bands (the Premier), reduced Gold tickets by 10% and left the remaining two price bands (Club & Jester) pretty much as they are at £175 & £99 respectively. The Gold seats will now cover all of the centre block AE, not just the back section as at present. The Club seats (renamed Silver) will cover the blocks either side, AE & AF. These two bands will have reserved seating. The remaining six blocks in the East Stand will be £99 unreserved seating, renamed Bronze. The majority of away supporters will be accommodated in the North Stand “for most games”. Cheapest tickets for seniors/students are £49 and £25 for Under 16’s.

I still find it strange that there’s such a wide difference between highest and lowest price to sit in the same stand. This year I bought a Gold ST as I thought I’d treat myself to the best seat in the house on the halfway line and prioritise Quins when there were clashes with the other sports I watch (the Salford game was the first home game I’ve missed this year, and I’ve missed five away), but on the whole I’ve enjoyed this season less than previous seasons, with the massacre of Warrington when they were at rock bottom the only home game that really sticks in the memory and the win at Headingley also standing out. So, now I can sit in an unreserved Bronze seat two blocks away near the thirty metre line for little more than one third of the price I’ll probably go for that instead and attend fewer matches as I won’t feel I’m wasting money if I miss four or five. Furthermore, by getting there at a sensible time I can sit with the friends who come along occasionally without them having to worry being saddled with a rubbish seat in a stand close to capacity.

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The club (and every other Super League club) have got to look at the example set by Huddersfield Giants.

* Season Tickets that are incredibly cheap because I'm sure if you offered Quins RU fans a Season Ticket at QRL for £50 (just an example) then there would be a few who would buy one for a Rugby fix while the RU season is dead.

* Or as St Mary's Uni is QRL's main sponsor for 2009 (not sure about 2010) then there must be a deal put in place for them. There must be some Northern lads/lasses in exile while they study at Twickenham or better London so why not offer them a ST for £50?

* Or as all registered London Rugby League juniors get in for nowt why not move there matchday so they can actually get to a game???

* Aussies need to be targeted again - after the Manly game. Why can't the club put posters in Australian themed boozers across the capital? Or whack in a double page colour advert in TNT magazine offering Aussies the chance to get a Season Ticket for £50-80 when they quote a reference code from the double page advert?

* A Referall scheme. For example if Joe Bloggs signs up for a ST and says his mate Frodo Baggins, who is a current ST holder, referred him then Joe gets in for 10% less and Frodo gets 20% off?

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