Thats your opinion i suppose but for me Orr is a quality half-back, and i dont think there are many cas or quins fans who would disagree.

Wonder where they are going

At 46-0 down at half time against Saints they have certainly got a long way to go

Orr will never come back and that's straight from the horses mouth.

Away at saints and we put up a bit of a fight in the second half

As you found out, They are by far the best side in the comp at the moment - Our result tonight wasnt embarrassing at all

And our club have openly admitted this year is a gap year

Between being in the National League?

A not exactly telegenic stadium and a poor performing team. Not exactly the way to secure a licence for Super League from 2009.

Our stadiums far from the worst in the league and we are working on getting 15,000 seater stadium in the next few years. We are averaging about double the attendance of one team in the league, despite having one of our poorest seasons on the pitch. We have beaten the best two teams in the competion (one of whom we bet with the only 17 fit players we had), and despite being last are only 2 points off one of the biggest teams in the league who spent more money than us and had more time to prepare for the season. We also lost our playmaker and best player, a player who is in with a good chance of getting man of steel. Whilst doing this we have blooded a number of youngsters, one of whom has been called up into the international squad and come the world cup we have another thats it in with a chance, both castleford lads as well.

Whilst doing this we have avoided going bust or having to lose our identity and be absorbed by a team from a rival code.

I can assume that the last reference was a barbed comment, I almost thought that's true, what's your point. I then realised that was a comment linked to London, a little off though as we have not actually done any of those things.

My reply to Dettoriman was more to do with their choice of words than my feelings on Cas and their licence situation, which are; if you can prove you are moving towards a new stadium then you are halfway there as there are a number of quality young British backs at the club along with Joe Westerman.

Unless you consider distribution to be the same as organisation that organisation doesn't really resolve anything. It doesn't help that there is far more fluidity between the different roles the halves play in the modern game.

Or Hull fans for that matter!

We have no worries on the License mate, I can assure you on that.

We have a fantastic youth setup, a loyal fan base, And a new stadium that will be announced shortly and will be ready for mid 2010

We are looking at some decent players for next year both here and abroad
Ryan Hudson and Ben Cockayne are signed along with James Evans

Rumour has it FuiFui MoiMoi is also signed and we are in for a number more players, One of which you will know very well as Feleti Mateo (Sp) - And i dont for one minute think we will sign him but Darren Lockyer was talking to terry matterson this week

I may be talking out of turn, as I don't have much - if any - knowlwdge of happenings at Cas, but I'd have thought that Lockyer would be a more likely candidate to come to the UK than Mateo.

Dream on!!! ,he is one of the hottest properties in the NRL,really dont think he will be coming back to SL!

Dunno how quins can talk or should it be broncos? As the broncos you were allowed more money to allow you to try and get yourself a respectable position and you failed miserably and then the rfl took pity on you and let you declare bankrupt, change your name and everything was ok again

Don't go on about teams struggling because they're having to do it the proper way without the rfl helping them out every 2 seconds

Rant over

Jeez,that semi-final defeat still rankles,eh??