How many threads on this subject do you need?

One for each of McDermott's successes. So plenty.

So the players did nothing!

maybe just maybe mcdermott coached the players to victory AGAIN crazy thought i know

stop that bolshy talk.

Brian McDermott managed the London Super League franchise between 2007 and 2010.
He won 39 out of 108 matches for a 36% win record.
His full seasons saw the club finish 9th, 9th, 11th and 13th.
We did not get past the 5th round of the Challenge Cup in any of his seasons in charge.
His last 40 games with our club saw us win a total of 8 games.
When he left we had the weakest squad and backroom staff in the club's history.
He is not fondly remembered by me - he was stealing a living from London!

At Leeds Rhinos, a very well run club which were already Grand Final winners, his record is decent:

Brian McClennan: 102 games - 73 wins, 1 draw, 28 losses - win record: 71.6%
Tony Smith: 71 games - 46 wins, 1 draw, 24 losses - win record: 64.8%
Brian McDermott: 69 games - 45 wins, 1 draw, 23 losses - win record: 65.2%

A neutral commentator would note that whilst Brian McDermott has an almost identical record to Tony Smith and McClennan it would be fair to suggest that Smith and McClennan consistently delivered within the regular rounds. By comparison McDermott has had two winning streaks in knock-out football and two other runs of wins to a final albeit mainly against weaker teams as previously noted.

Brian can be commended for his Grand Final successes.

But what I find most interesting is that of the Grand Final starting team of Hardaker; Jones-Bishop, Watkins, Ablett, Hall; McGuire, Sinfield; Leuluai, Burrow, Peacock, Jones-Buchanan, Delaney and Bailey there is not a single player recruited into Leeds by McDermott.

His only acquisitions were on the interchange bench with Lunt (on loan) and the 31 year old Prop Darrell Griffin alongside other people's signings in Kirke and Ward.

I am yet to see any real evidence of Brian building his own team and going beyond the motivational role in knock out football and if he does he'll truly be earning a living rather than maintaining a successful club.

Cheers
Ramo

You really are clutching at straws if one of your main points to criticise a successful coach like McDermott is not making rafts of signings. His team contained only 2 overseas players of any type - fantastic.

He is getting the most out of a team that was quite clearly in decline under the previous regime. And his treatment and careful introduction of young players is exemplary.

Like I have said before, Sinfield rates him as one of the best, 4/4 finals, 3 huge wins, yet some of our bitter, but obviously more knowledgeable fans, refuse to acknowlege his talent. Very amusing indeed

really?

Yep. The 2010 turnaround was magnificent, this years effort proving it was no fluke. What a job McDermott is doing.

There is an extensive thread on the Leeds forum with many more knowledgeable supporters praising their coach after initially having their doubts. Have a read of it, it's decent.

Still, I am delighted that McDermott left us and we upgraded to Rob Powell. A shrewd move

Listy if Mac had stayed at the club with the resources Powel had at his disposal, what do you think he may have achieved?

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing that Powel’s appointment was a mistake.

????

What?

Plenty. Everyone on here was pleased with the state of our squad at the beginning of this season in particular.



Nearly everyone was chuffed to bits at the time. Fools.

I don't think so.