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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: tw15 "While I am fed up with the team not performing, I'm finding the negativity in the forum more fed-up-make-able. We won a game; we won by 70 points. Maybe the team will keep the success going. '"

Well aware the team hammered a Championship side with 8 first team squad players pulled die to duel registrations.......nothing to get excited about.

Quote: tw15 "There's some people in this forum who believe they can do a better job than the current owners. '"

I KNOW I could do a better job of running the club if DH gave me 1.5 million a year on top of the 1.5 SKY money .....I have never said I could donate 1.5 million a year into a black hole...

Quote: tw15 "I would respectfully point out that DH knows enough about running a business to have £1.5 million a year to spend on his hobby.'"

He is a commodaties trader.......buying and selling high and low.......niche business and not at all related to the running of a minority sport pro club 2000 miles from its heartland.

Quote: tw15 " I have my own business, but I haven't had that level of success. I don't feel I should be telling him what to do when he seems to be able to run a business far better than I.'"

I also own my own business....part of what me and my team do, is advise sporting clubs in NZ on how to attract fans back to games....It is what I do for a living....apparently we are pretty good at it, so yes, I will offer advice whether it's listened to or not......

Quote: tw15 "I don't know the situation of those complaining and whether they have a business track record similar to DH. If they have, then please do invest in the company and implement their ideas. '"

I can assure you, if I had 5 million, I would have taken the IL shares off him in a heartbeat and the team would have a minimum of 5k fans to play in front of at home games......and again, DH is a successful commodities trader.....

Quote: tw15 "As fans, we have every right to complain if the shop isn't stocked. We have the right to complain about the team's performance, the price of tickets, OTR games and the quality of the pies. We can complain about the "product" but behind the scenes stuff is really up to the owners.'"


stick your head in the sand some more....when you look up, the club will have vanished if they don't change tactics....

Let's get back to this one again

Simply put.......this is the Marketing strategy I put to the club back in 2002.....

2002.....Broncos average gate..3,803......add 5% a year to that and you end up with an average of 6,200 (appx) by 2012. In my many many posts on the subject of attracting more fans, there have been ideas that would have cost nothing, or at worst, seen a minimal spend on marketing materials............but the club did their own thing (nothing)

Fast forward 10 years +.....The club have played in the same area .....(less than 4 miles between grounds)......if they start adding 5% a season now, they'd be on 4,346 by 2022...... and not near 6,200 for another 7 years after thatd040.gif

Tell me........who's business plan is working? I suggested the above strategy to the then marketing team at the club in 2002..........5% a year.........190 more at each game....then 200 the year after....

Now the club are asking all 890 ST holders to bring mates ...that would have been a good idea in 2002.......but in 2012 it's too little too late. It would also have helped if the club had a plan B for when this masterstroke failed.......and by plan B, I don't mean blaming the players........we've had crap seasons before...2010 we had 3,380 as our average....20% more than this year in 2004 we wre really bad....3,460 average.......and the name change was supposed to INCREASE GATES eusa_wall.gif eusa_wall.gif

To put the 5% increase a year for 10 years into perspective....at a tenner a ticket, 806,000 in Ticket revenue in 2012 would have been the income in 2012 if we had a 6,200 average gate...........
....this year they are tracking for 347k.....that's 460k less at the gate, about the same again if not more in residuals and no interest from sponsors.......dare I say, in total......very close to the 1.5 million invested by the chairman?

All this from looking to add 190 fans per game in 2003........and then another 200 per game in 2004.....etc.etc...etc....

hey...you continue with your "fed up" statements...I get no pleasure from saying I told them so, but it's a simple fact......years and years of neglect have resulted in a situation where 652 people bothered paying less than 10k in total to watch a game in a stadium that apparently costs us close to 30k to hire.......which according to you, is the sign of a well run business d040.gif

Fed Up? It's like watching a car crash in slow motion....... icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: Dan Stains woz God "Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him.

Just think, it may not be his fault that he was given the top job too early...it is other peoples decisions that have put him there. (and may very well be to his long term detriment).'"



Agree with that. I don't think anyone is in denial that we could be in a better position generally. No-one is that naïve to suggest that we need to improve in various areas of the club on and off the pitch.

As for the coach, I'm wondering if Tim Sheens, the current australian coach is a shıt coach. Afterall his team are 13th our of 16th in the NRL.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Rooster Booster "As for the coach, I'm wondering if Tim Sheens, the current australian coach is a shıt coach. Afterall his team are 13th our of 16th in the NRL.'"

Depends if he gets a win on Friday or not.....and if the Kiwi born player he picked plays better than the 8 or so Australian born players the Kiwis have picked icon_mrgreen.gif

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I have followed the LONDON CLUB since I was in my teensl even though born in St Helens and still live nearby and went to the first game at Fulham, also Big West Ham Supporter:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1649.jpg



Quote: Dan Stains woz God "Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him. '"


We get accused of having our heads in the sand! those who think they can coach or run the club better without knowing all the facts and seeing the books are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land!

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Quote: jaybs "Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him. '"


We get accused of having our heads in the sand! those who think they can coach or run the club better without knowing all the facts and seeing the books are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land!'"


Yes, let's all cross our fingers and hope for an utter miracle rather that discussing what else could be done.

Fact: the club read the forum.

Fact: the club is in contact with forum users.

Fact: the club has acted before on suggestions that have come from this forum.

The only person living in a cloud cuckoo land 200 miles away is you.

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Quote: gutterfax "Depends if he gets a win on Friday or not.....and if the Kiwi born player he picked plays better than the 8 or so Australian born players the Kiwis have picked Going?

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Quote: Dave Lister "Yes, let's all cross our fingers and hope for an utter miracle rather that discussing what else could be done.

Fact


I well know the facts you like to point out about the club and this forum, as well as suggestions I can assure you of that!

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I suspected the club was doomed when I saw the season ticket booklet had been arranged in alphabetical order. Who in their right mind would do that ? icon_eek.gif

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Quote: jbuzza "I suspected the club was doomed when I saw the season ticket booklet had been arranged in alphabetical order. Who in their right mind would do that ?
So so stupid

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they put in the vouchers for each visiting team alphabetically rather than by date of the game? That's somewhat 'quirky' icon_smile.gif

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What, jbuzza or Broncos? icon_biggrin.gif Our ST booklet is done the same way as the Quins have always done theirs (maybe they thought most of us had a grasp of the alphabet ?)

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right I see, never come across that before. Every other season ticket book I've come across does it by date, that way you're ripping off the front one - doesnt the Quins way of doing things leave people open to ripping out the wrong one?
Not a big deal - just different. And come on, a teensy bit weird icon_wink.gif

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When fixtures are rearranged ST holders will still know which tickets to use. No doubt some supporters have probably suggested this as they go to Quins RU games as well. The club has probably responded to the fans suggestions and now they are being criticised for it. Time some critics thought things through a bit rather than just jump on the clubs efforts even if they are not obvious at first glance.

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Quote: Snoopy "When fixtures are rearranged ST holders will still know which tickets to use. No doubt some supporters have probably suggested this as they go to Quins RU games as well. The club has probably responded to the fans suggestions and now they are being criticised for it. Time some critics thought things through a bit rather than just jump on the clubs efforts even if they are not obvious at first glance.'"


Wrong...they used to be simply numbered vouchers (not dated or associated with any particular game ) and there were signs at the gate saying which number to use. Believe it or not the first game was #1, the second #2 etc.

While I am perfectly capable of searching through the book in alphabetical order it is a faff I can do without and can hardly help the queue move quicker.

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dont know if this has been linked from here before as it's an old article on RL in London but it's a good read. From Total RL and first appeared in Rugby League World last year.

www.totalrl.com/features/content ... tcat_id=49

I'd love to see the kind of central backing that he suggests but can you imagine the level of complaint from some in the north!?
dont know if this has been linked from here before as it's an old article on RL in London but it's a good read. From Total RL and first appeared in Rugby League World last year.

www.totalrl.com/features/content ... tcat_id=49

I'd love to see the kind of central backing that he suggests but can you imagine the level of complaint from some in the north!?


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