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What were/are we paying at trailfinders

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Listy,
Just a few things, all i have done is stated the obvious.
If the club make a signing thats the clubs choice i am a fan not a lot i or you can do about it, so yep see how they get on. Example being sammut! First stint with us he got critisised massivley, now he is seen as vital by some so let em get on and see what happens.

Same with the owner spending the money the way he chooses, again, unless me you or anyone else on here comes into some serious family money, not a lot any of us can do about it. As for new investment and owners, like most business deals they are very seldom public domain until nearly done, bit like the wimbledon move, club were in discussion with several grounds, if you announce that openly then deals fall through and costs change.
Fans have the right to whinge and moan as much as they want, it aint going to change anything though.
But your "jesus wept" comment was in relation to a simple statement of where i think the club is possibly going, its noticable that you dont have an opinion on that thought.

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If the cost we are paying for wimbledon / rosslyn park and richmond in 2021 is less than trailfinders would be in 2021 then moving was the correct choice, if the funds saved then can be repurposed towards the squad

If we are paying more for this, considering we are at least 2-3 years away from being SL ready unless somebody spends alot more on the squad we should not have moved.

Thats my only point here

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Quote: nadera78 "The Dons Trust have explicitly stated the deal is worth £200,000 - £500,000 a year. Plus the Broncos are now renting Roslyn Park and Richmond. That's a huge increase on what we were paying at Ealing..'"

Forgive me. But werent we told £250,000 year at Harlequins was too much.
At least we'll get a.lonfon derby next year when were down with skolara

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I thought we payed Quins 400k???

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Quote: nadera78 "The Dons Trust have explicitly stated the deal is worth £200,000 - £500,000 a year. Plus the Broncos are now renting Roslyn Park and Richmond. That's a huge increase on what we were paying at Ealing.

Looking at the move to PL and the club as a whole, the sad truth is that yet another employee has taken David Hughes' pants down with unrealistic promises, and we all know what primate it is this time.'"

Your second paragraph is spot on.

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Quote: crashmon "Starting to get really concerned this will be last season for the club.... Not going to be close to the playoffs, and charging more than superleague clubs charge for people to watch on the gate.'"


Yeah I've had that feeling for a few months that this might be it.... Or League 1 status.....at least we'd get the competitive London derby

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Quote: crashmon "Its not wimbledon per see, its that if you have 500 fans (which is what Part time we have) 500 fans in a 2000 capacity can make some noise and you get a good atmosphere. For instance at trailfinders the atmosphere was much much better than at Barnet.. Barnt was a 5000 capacity stadium... Now if Dons is 9000, and you have 500 fans the atmosphere is non existant.

I felt the atmosphere in the main stand at trailfinders was great, lots of banter, lots of singing. you just don't get that if you are filling less than 10% of the ground'"



Agreed

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Quote: northernbloke "I suspect the dons fans dont give a hoot what league we are playing in or how many fans we get through the gate. I doubt very much that any rent deal is linked in anyway to crowd size initially (just my thought, i have no inside information).'"
You claim you only state the obvious but in reality Wimbledon fans have been asked to vote on the groundshare deal based on finances that depend very much on numbers through the gate.

SpecificallyThe range given was between £200k and £500k per full London Broncos season. The primary reason for such a wide range is that the higher end will only occur if the London Broncos are in the Super League. The lower end is the minimum net amount based on the Broncos playing in the Championship and for a full season at Plough Lane with attendances slightly higher than they have currently....in essence, the more people attend Broncos games, the more revenue we are likely to generate. And the more successful the Broncos are, the more rewarding the deal is for us. [/i

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Quote: Honkytonk "I thought we payed Quins 400k???'"

The accounts that were "leaked" back in 2012 showed £257,000 as a figure for facilities hire. This could have included the training facilities and I'm not sure when the desk space at Quins was given up, but there's not a chance it was £400k at the end.
It would seem that one of two things, or maybe both are true here.
1. Mr Hughes falls out with partners and landlords and decides to leave
2. Mr Hughes employs peoe.out if their depth who then scurry to.find a distraction that will make their shortcomings secondary. Like moving grounds.or changing names.
My theory is that we are being touted to wimbledon as a potential addition to their stable when Mr Hughes steps down.
I'm no fan of David Argyle, but what he and his marketing team did in attracting fans to a new sport in decent numbers on a regular basis, regardless of free tickets or not is a beacon of what London could have achieved. Especially at Trailfinders, where there was room for a beer tent/festival scenario.
Now all we have to look forward to at best is being called Wimbledon Broncos, playing in the 3rd tier and praying for the end.

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Where in the deal we have seen is there any statement on numbers?

My theory is that we are being touted to wimbledon as a potential addition to their stable when Mr Hughes steps down. And that would be a bad thing why?
Is a new owner not what everyone is suggesting is needed?

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Quote: northernbloke "Where in the deal we have seen is there any statement on numbers?'"
This bit should give you a clue as to how the deal is structured [i.in essence, the more people attend Broncos games, the more revenue we are likely to generate[/i.

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Quote: northernbloke "Where in the deal we have seen is there any statement on numbers?

My theory is that we are being touted to wimbledon as a potential addition to their stable when Mr Hughes steps down. And that would be a bad thing why?
Is a new owner not what everyone is suggesting is needed?'"

Apologists gotta apologise.......it's in their nature.
1. 257k was what we paid 9 years ago.....apparently it was too much.
2. Wimbledon RLFC isn't the issue.....but that won't happen in the 3rd tier....maybe not even the second.
But you keep banging the it's all ok drum

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Quote: northernbloke "Where in the deal we have seen is there any statement on numbers?

My theory is that we are being touted to wimbledon as a potential addition to their stable when Mr Hughes steps down. And that would be a bad thing why?
Is a new owner not what everyone is suggesting is needed?'"


The information has come out via AFC Wimbledon, it's been on this forum and the other one. You can ignore it, or pretend to, if you want.

As to AFCW taking over the Broncos, well they don't have enough money to fund themselves and have built up debts on the stadium that will impact their ability to compete on the field. The fans of a struggling football team are not going to be impressed by the management taking on board a loss-making rugby club - even more so when it is a fans-owned football club. AFCW are looking at us as an easy pay day, £200,000+ for doing nothing, just like Fulham FC did back in the 80s, that all it is. The chances of them buying the Broncos are infintesimally small.

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Quote: nadera78 "As to AFCW taking over the Broncos, well they don't have enough money to fund themselves and have built up debts on the stadium that will impact their ability to compete on the field. The fans of a struggling football team are not going to be impressed by the management taking on board a loss-making rugby club'"


Yep, it is far from obvious why a football fans trust would want to take on losses of around £1M per year to run a RL team.

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