3,124 in 2006.......2,805 ? in 1999 .....there is one common demoninator...........staring with M.......ending in G with a bit of "arketin" missing in the middle.....

I'm wondering why our attendances went down in the year we made a challenge cup final? And then up again the following year having moved to the Valley with a team that contained Frank Napoli?

In fact we had attendances of under 2,600 for 7 of the 11 games following that final in 99?

Yet the following season they went up by an average of around 700 per game? I'm truly baffled. Moreso as there was no marketing!

One major factor was the fact that the whole of Castleford were given a free day out at the Valley. You need to look at the detail if you want to make any conclusions about attendances. As I have said before, the venue we have played at has made little or no difference to crowds. Happy to listen to any statistical argument to the contrary but doubt there is one.

Yep. I get what you've said. Castleford game 8,067 in 2000. I'm not arguing about the stoop as a venue JB. It's about the anomaly in 1999.

Am asking gutterfax why there was an average of only 2805 in 1999 even with a side that made the CC Final. Much lower than the ones he complains about of the last few years. Even with the Bradford game that season 8,233. That was the day Diana died if I recall rightly. The only sporting even in the UK that day!!! Thank christ for that as the average would have been even worse at the stoop that year. Cas as you've pointed out brought loads down. 8,067. Can you see that even if each game cancelled each other out numerically, the attendance was still a lot lower in 99 at the Stoop? Seems like we get more down due to the marketing of the other clubs really doesn't it???

The Bradford game you refer to was in 1997 (last game of season). Highest crowd in '99 was 3,567 in Round 5 at home to Saints.

Unfortunately, our gates are influenced too much by how many the away team bring, in that you are correct.

Old age creeping in son, that was the final game of '97 season where 1st was playing 2nd.

'99 was an effing dire season, CC run apart, DS couldn't buy a win and until TR and Les Kiss came in and steadied it up, it was painful to watch, remember the Gateshead sunday lunchtime game? the 2000 move to the Valley must have brought in some local watchers to increase the crowds as well as a few back who couldnt stand the dross served in '99.

Honestly? I have no idea why the crowds dropped off after the CC final year. I do know that there is only one ground we played at where we left with more fans than we arrived there and it was AFAIK the only one where we invited the neighbours in for coffee.......ie, we leafleted the surrounding houses.

Aha. I'm back on track now GF. The marketing helped with regards Brentford as a location.\





G'day Steve. (I'm putting that on, as I don't speak like that. Having a wife from South East London will ensure that). How's River Cottage these days? Are you sure we didn't win every game under Dan Stains?



I wonder what lured some back to the Valley then as it wasn't marketing? Nor the team I'd suggest. The line up for 01 would have been better with the signings of Hetherington, Barnett, Gillette etc. Yeah the attendances fell again? It is all rather baffling. Of course marketing should help, but as they're hasn't been any I just wonder what creates such variables?

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Never lose the twang Mick it's what make us what we is