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Quote: gutterfax "Hmmm...positive statement about the club owning its own ground but realistically, even if the "land" was delivered to us for free, we would need to raise 30 million + to have a chance of building a ground. Not sure where Brentford are with Lionel road, but that ground (or the alternative towards Feltham) was going to be backed by a mix of private and council money......maybe there are stll discussions regarding that?


Just a word on Lionel Road, last week Barratt Homes pulled out of the deal that was being worked up for that. Brentford FC still exploring their options so long term it could still be an option but this is a very long term thing we're talking about here.

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Lionel road eventually just off the a4 would be fantastic ( If Brentford ever get it going) I am sure Brentford would like an equal partner.

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Quote: windy one 2010 "Lionel road eventually just off the a4 would be fantastic ( If Brentford ever get it going) I am sure Brentford would like an equal partner.'"


Why? They bled us dry when we were there. It's part of the soccer club culture to grab everything and screw everyone else. They dont know what the words 'equal partners' means.

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Quote: Snoopy "Why? They bled us dry when we were there. It's part of the soccer club culture to grab everything and screw everyone else. They dont know what the words 'equal partners' means.'"


We would have to come in as equal partners and show some nuts as an equal partner but a great opportunity for a permenant home.

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Quote: Snoopy "Why? They bled us dry when we were there. It's part of the soccer club culture to grab everything and screw everyone else. They dont know what the words 'equal partners' means.'"


Far be it from me to spring to the defence of the football club I support (albeit on a largely armchair basis) but I would like to think that with a new stadium, and the club's supporter-run structure, we would be able to reach a mutually beneficial agreement with them should we choose to move there. It would certainly be a better option than others e.g. groundsharing at QPR or Milton Keynes or some bloody thing

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: windy one 2010 "We would have to come in as equal partners and show some nuts as an equal partner but a great opportunity for a permenant home.'"


It's all pi55 and wind until we average more than 5k anyway. To be treated as an equal, you need cash...cash comes from investors, sponsors and fans.......we have no sponsor, 1 investor who got jittery at the end of last year and very few fans.
I have suggested before (once or twice0 that to get investors and sponsors you need fans first...something I get barracked for repeating on here d040.gif

David Hughes, for all his brilliant support has to understand (as I do too) that just because he (I) love (s) this game, doesn't mean that a big investor will too. 15 years of top flight RL in london and still the same 3,500 average...no growth but plenty of negatives...hardly the basis for throwing 10,000,000+ at a venture is it?

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The partner has to be a local council, not another sports club. Which is why Brentford didnt work, and Harlequins cant work long term. They ultimately can't resist charging us masses of rent as its no benefit to another sports club if we bring people into the local area or get local kids playing sport and off the streets, or raise the profile of an area. We need a 50 year rent free lease with a council owned ground which would be mutually beneficial. Or a ground of our own (which is unlikely without big investment).

Im sure we pay a huge part of our income on ground rent at The Stoop and that's no good.

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Quote: Tre Cool "The partner has to be a local council, not another sports club. Which is why Brentford didnt work, and Harlequins cant work long term. They ultimately can't resist charging us masses of rent as its no benefit to another sports club if we bring people into the local area or get local kids playing sport and off the streets, or raise the profile of an area. We need a 50 year rent free lease with a council owned ground which would be mutually beneficial. Or a ground of our own (which is unlikely without big investment).

Im sure we pay a huge part of our income on ground rent at The Stoop and that's no good.'"


Get a council ' facility ' and you'll still be no better off , unless YOU own and or control the stadium it will always be a drain on your income

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Quote: Starbug "Get a council ' facility ' and you'll still be no better off , unless YOU own and or control the stadium it will always be a drain on your income'"


Not if the council see you as an asset to the area and give you favourable terms over a long period. MK would do that, we need to find an area of London that would if that's too far.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Tre Cool "Not if the council see you as an asset to the area and give you favourable terms over a long period. MK would do that, we need to find an area of London that would if that's too far.'"

as the bug will no doubt tell you..Leigh get nothing from any of the money spent on food and booze at their stadium......the council sell the franchises to the highest bidder......

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Quote: gutterfax "It's all pi55 and wind until we average more than 5k anyway. To be treated as an equal, you need cash...cash comes from investors, sponsors and fans.......we have no sponsor, 1 investor who got jittery at the end of last year and very few fans.
I have suggested before (once or twice0 that to get investors and sponsors you need fans first...something I get barracked for repeating on here
So you'll be agreeing with me then when I argue about the RFL being happy to provide funding for Championship clubs to try to entice a ' sugar daddy ' when what you need foremost is more fans , then the corporate support will follow that , not the other way round

Some businessman comes for a day/night out at the RL and sees a stadium 90 percent empty , it isn't going to encourage him to invest if the locals aren't bothered , then why should he ?

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Quote: gutterfax "as the bug will no doubt tell you..Leigh get nothing from any of the money spent on food and booze at their stadium......the council sell the franchises to the highest bidder......'"


The principle behind modern stadia is that rather than a 20/25 day a year usage , they need 365 days a year usage, that's why Warrington don't have a supporters bar , just after the HJ was built I visited it and the management at the club , I was given a personal tour of the ground and asked many questions , at the time what was the rear of the now ' Martin Dawes ' stand was being developed , I asked if that was to be a club bar , the reply was no , not much point with two pubs directly outside the ground , a health centre that pays them rent 52 weeks a year was the reply

As GF has alluded to we get sod all from the LSV , we have lost over a hundred grandsworth of sales a year , plus tens of thousands worth of stadium advertising , even if the stadium had been able to pul in some ' naming rights ' it would just get swallowed up by the excessive costs due to public sector management

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Quote: Starbug "The principle behind modern stadia is that rather than a 20/25 day a year usage , they need 365 days a year usage, that's why Warrington don't have a supporters bar , just after the HJ was built I visited it and the management at the club , I was given a personal tour of the ground and asked many questions , at the time what was the rear of the now ' Martin Dawes ' stand was being developed , I asked if that was to be a club bar , the reply was no , not much point with two pubs directly outside the ground , a health centre that pays them rent 52 weeks a year was the reply

As GF has alluded to we get sod all from the LSV , we have lost over a hundred grandsworth of sales a year , plus tens of thousands worth of stadium advertising , even if the stadium had been able to pul in some ' naming rights ' it would just get swallowed up by the excessive costs due to public sector management

It makes me
It needs to be the right deal, and it sounds like the Leigh directors didnt act like hard nosed businessmen.

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Quote: Tre Cool "It needs to be the right deal, and it sounds like the Leigh directors didnt act like hard nosed businessmen.'"


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