Stewarding costs are linked to the number of people as I understand the legislation. I believe you need 1 steward per 250 people so not clear that each stand you open doubles the costs

A Daily Star like piece of sensationalism one would suggest- Somewhat simplistic view point I suspect

its interesting that you say steward requirements are 1 steward per so many number of fans!
Would be interesting to know how the club decide how many stewards needed for each game then!!
Do they assume the east stand will be full?
do they assume the north stand will be full?

Gutter has got it right! lets go back to using east and west stand with season ticket holders in the west stand
Those that pay on the day sit where they want
If the club employ stewards for each set of steps in to the stand and they want to restrict the numbers its simple!
Dont use the 2 end blocks at either end of the stands, get people to congregate towqards the centre of the pitch

Simply close blocks AA and AJ ar AA AB and AH AJ on both side of the pitch
If those blocks are closed they dont need stewards!
and it still gives a good view for the TV cameras

while i am on a rant
Lets make season ticket sales easier!
1 price choose yr seat first to buy get best seats
Noisy lot can congregate in one area
Lets be honest stewards dont check the tickets unless there is a dispute with someone sitting in yr seat, so whats the incentive to pay top dollar when you can pay for a jester ticket and sit where you want anyhow

The season has not got long left to run
So its all for next season really

My preference would be to see the LV stand for season ticket holders. All seats unallocated and this would enable season ticket holders to bring friends and new supporters with them and be able to sit together. What's the point of allocated seating when the stewards don't enforce it. Obviously these new fans should only be able to sit with season ticket holders for an agreed time limit then they should be encouraged to buy a season ticket or use the walk up facilities. Three to five games should be enough to et them hooked. A one price ticket system plus concession price should be easy to manage. The club do not need to open any facilities in the LV stand apart from the toilets which are accessible from outside. These are opened anyway. Four stewards is not expensive and should be enough to maintain safety, they could actually be transferred from east to west stand.

The East Stand could be for walk ups and away fans again unallocated. Season ticket holders who prefer the east stand should be allowed to use their season ticket for entry into that stand. Probably around £10 per ticket. Keep it cheap to fill seats and get new fans.

If the club could do this it should show once and for all which stand the fans prefer. If it is true they prefer the LV then the club should be selling loads of season tickets in advance and get the money in. Too many poeple have said they are unhappy so lets try and change the unhappiness and build positive vibes

My preference would be to see the LV stand for season ticket holders. All seats unallocated and this would enable season ticket holders to bring friends and new supporters with them and be able to sit together. What's the point of allocated seating when the stewards don't enforce it. Obviously these new fans should only be able to sit with season ticket holders for an agreed time limit then they should be encouraged to buy a season ticket or use the walk up facilities. Three to five games should be enough to et them hooked.How do you manage this? Who knows how many games an individual has been to? A one price ticket system plus concession price should be easy to manage. The club do not need to open any facilities in the LV stand apart from the toilets which are accessible from outside. These are opened anyway. Four stewards is not expensive and should be enough to maintain safety, they could actually be transferred from east to west stand.

The East Stand could be for walk ups and away fans again unallocated. Season ticket holders who prefer the east stand should be allowed to use their season ticket for entry into that stand. Probably around £10 per ticket. Keep it cheap to fill seats and get new fans.

If the club could do this it should show once and for all which stand the fans prefer. If it is true they prefer the LV then the club should be selling loads of season tickets in advance and get the money in. Too many poeple have said they are unhappy so lets try and change the unhappiness and build positive vibes

Lets wait and see what PB has up his sleeve.

I thought we were in the east stand for Sky's purposes

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Quote :38m3y57sHow do you manage this? Who knows how many games an individual has been to?'"

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Season ticket holder would purchase tickets or their friend would purchase tickets giving season ticket holders details. These details can be logged on the data system which actually shows who has previously purchased tickets and to which games.

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I would think he has a lot up his sleeve - he appears to be very switched on and no-ones fool. He is building crowds slowly and surely.

=darkblue:38m3y57sI thought we were in the east stand for Sky's purposes

Spot on B1........having the fans in one stand and overspill/away into the north does nothing for SKYs TV presentation and nothing for Quins attendance figures......in fact it looks awful when the cameras are scanning the ground and all you see is empty sides.

The change to the east stand for home fans has been to the detriment of the game day atmosphere.......most (but appreciate not all) home fans would prefer to be in the LV, facing the away fans in the east. The away fans would also prefer to be in the east, not stuck behind the sticks.....so what on earth are we doing in trying to wedge everybody in the east!!!

Agree with the sentiment that seating for ST holders in the LV stand should be unallocated......the flexibility it would provide for bringing along guests and newbies would be a vast improvement.....all in all a better `game day experience` and after all thats what we are trying to sell!!!!

Not knocking you....more interested really....what ground did Warrington play in front of 104,000 people at??

It's awful sitting in the East stand - cramped - sun in your face and surrounded by the opposition. The West LV stand was a much better option all round and if they said we were going back to that next year my money would be in the post today for next season. As it is I'm not sure I'll be having a season ticket at all. In all the years supporting my team they have been let down to a greater or lesser extent by the appalling 'back-room' team. (Chris Warren and Dom excepted). Not enough passion ofr the game or concern for the supporters.

And all these stats - check out the time of year of the game too before you start comparing. It's school holidays now - may get a few more away supporters but home supporters from the 'affluent' south may be away on holiday.

Simplistic? Sensationalism? Daily Star


Get real.....any other way of representing the crowd figures since we came back to TW2 is spin. I suggest you look at the front page of the quins site and the spin applied to the Leeds crowd on June 20th. A record 2009 attendance figure it may be.......but it was actually the 3rd worse crowd for a visit of the Rhinos since 2000. Polish the turd all you like.......you can't hide the fact it's still a Turd.
How would you rather I represent a drop from a 4,238 average in 2006 to a current average of 3,512?

Quote Hear Ye!="Hear Ye!"Not knocking you....more interested really....what ground did Warrington play in front of 104,000 people at??'" Odsal, 1954. Though most of the speccies were probably 'fax fans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odsal_Stadium

Quote Hear Ye!="Hear Ye!"Not knocking you....more interested really....what ground did Warrington play in front of 104,000 people at??'" Odsal, 1954. Though most of the speccies were probably 'fax fans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odsal_Stadium

Quote BroncOnIon="BroncOnIon"Odsal, 1954. Though most of the speccies were probably 'fax fans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odsal_Stadium'" And it was probably a lot more than that too...impossible to count. Does anyone have a time-machine? We could just go back and borrow 6000 of them for our next home game.

Quote BroncOnIon="BroncOnIon"Odsal, 1954. Though most of the speccies were probably 'fax fans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odsal_Stadium'" And it was probably a lot more than that too...impossible to count. Does anyone have a time-machine? We could just go back and borrow 6000 of them for our next home game.