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I was right, nothing new to see here.

You really don't get it do you. Clubs announce when they are moving, not when they are staying. Point me to a news story from another club that says 'We will not be moving next season'.

As for tickets? It's a membership so there is no need to advertise a season ticket. Join when you like, leave when you want. I guess you're looking for another news story saying 'We are not selling season tickets'.

Until I see a credible story saying Broncos are leaving (despite telling NYT that they are staying at the Hive ) or that direct debits are being cancelled because the Hive are no longer running ticket sales then this is just hot air.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: meliferra "I was right, nothing new to see here.

You really don't get it do you. Clubs announce when they are moving, not when they are staying. Point me to a news story from another club that says 'We will not be moving next season'.

As for tickets? It's a membership so there is no need to advertise a season ticket. Join when you like, leave when you want. I guess you're looking for another news story saying 'We are not selling season tickets'.

Until I see a credible story saying Broncos are leaving (despite telling NYT that they are staying at the Hive ) or that direct debits are being cancelled because the Hive are no longer running ticket sales then this is just hot air.'"

The tennancy arrangement between the broncos and the hive that ran for 2014 will not be the same as the one in place for 2015. The club (and RFL) were informed of this in July. I would expect the 185 broncos members would be told this before Octobers cash is taken

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Then I suggest you give it a rest until then and see if the membership scheme does come to an end. As members pay in advance then we will know in 3 weeks time.

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Yet another thread taken off topic

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Quote: Sarf Essex Taff "Yet another thread taken off topic'"
Sorry, probably my fault because I opened a window by suggesting that our signings might be enough to persuade me to make a few trips to Harrow next year. icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Andover Boy "Despite some very positive signs on the recruitment front, I can still only see a Championship side gaining promotion if a SL side in the middle 8 has suffered a financial meltdown on the scale that we have this year or has the worst injury list in history. On that last point, I wonder whether there will be any restrictions on loan players for the middle 8 in that period?'"
So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season.
Quote: Andover Boy "" ... the ongoing review into the operational rules relating to dual-registration that will be completed in time for the start of the 2015 season."'"

www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -deduction

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Quote: Andover Boy "Despite some very positive signs on the recruitment front, I can still only see a Championship side gaining promotion if a SL side in the middle 8 has suffered a financial meltdown on the scale that we have this year or has the worst injury list in history. On that last point, I wonder whether there will be any restrictions on loan players for the middle 8 in that period?'"
So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season.
Quote: Andover Boy "" ... the ongoing review into the operational rules relating to dual-registration that will be completed in time for the start of the 2015 season."'"

www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -deduction

Whoops! Off topic again!


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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: BroncOnIon "So does everybody else, the RFL don't know now and probably won't for another few months. See this quote from the RFL re the current cock-up concerning points deductions for championship clubs this season.
And people wonder why the game is seen as a "local" pastime rather than a national sport? Incredible.......relegation from the Championship this year closes the door on access to the 'MILLION POUND GAME'........surely heads will roll for this blunder. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_wink.gif icon_cheers.gif

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So then gutters that will be no you will not be buying s ticket then.


So come on font of all knowledge the club have told the rfl what exactly

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: mickyb1234 "


So come on font of all knowledge the club have told the rfl what exactly'"

That the owners of the hive don't want year 2 of the agreement they were bribed to take this ywar

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Where is yr evidence, what bribe?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: mickyb1234 "Where is yr evidence, what bribe?'"

The RFL gave the HIve's owner a marketing budget. They have not given the owners of the other 13 SL club stadiums any money........but at the "everything is going to be OK fans forum" back in February, AK freely admitted he'd been given a budget by the RFL. Are you saying it wasn't a deal sweetener?
As for the 2015 rental arrangement, my source is the same one who furnished me with the clubs financials under Hughes as well as countless other accurate information.
Believe what makes you happy Michael.......

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Quote: gutterfax "The RFL gave the HIve's owner a marketing budget. They have not given the owners of the other 13 SL club stadiums any money........but at the "everything is going to be OK fans forum" back in February, AK freely admitted he'd been given a budget by the RFL. Are you saying it wasn't a deal sweetener?
As for the 2015 rental arrangement, my source is the same one who furnished me with the clubs financials under Hughes ...
'"

Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House:
wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails
Company No. 05322378

wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1
Quote: gutterfax "The RFL gave the HIve's owner a marketing budget. They have not given the owners of the other 13 SL club stadiums any money........but at the "everything is going to be OK fans forum" back in February, AK freely admitted he'd been given a budget by the RFL. Are you saying it wasn't a deal sweetener?
As for the 2015 rental arrangement, my source is the same one who furnished me with the clubs financials under Hughes ...
'"

Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House:
wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails
Company No. 05322378

wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcprodorder?ft=1


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So a commercial deal with an option for a second year. A deal that solves a dilemma for the RFL. A bribe tends to suggest an illegal hidden payment. Where was it hidden?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: BroncOnIon "Wow! He must have spent a few quid at Companies House:

Nope.....I have a breakdown of where every penny was wasted at the club. How little was spent on Marketing....how much we received each year from the RFL, the incredible amount spent on "administration". I can assure you, the arrangement that Blake Solly thrashed out with AK to get us to fulfil our 2014 fixtures in SL was sweetened with a "marketing budget" and if you look carefully at the releases at the time, was rolled out as a 1 year deal with a 2nd year option....the option has not been taken by AK/The Hive and therefore the club is having to re-negotiate the deal. I admitted that my "homeless" comment in the thread about this earlier in the year was a "worst case" scenario, but chances are if we stay at the Hive we will be paying the same rent (or more) than we did at The Stoop.

A bribe/an incentive/a sweetner......call it what you want SR. The fact is it was used to get us into a home for 13 more games before the licence expired.

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If TK freely admitted to receiving a marketing budget then he didn't do a very good job of keeping the bribe a secret. Unless of cause it wasn't a bribe but a marketing budget.
The question is where is your evidence that this marketing budget is the reason for a possible renegotiation of Broncos stay because so far I've seen nothing to back this up. Don't you think poor attendances and relegation might have more to do with the relationship between Hive and Broncos?

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