FORUMS > London Broncos > 7,700? Have we been mugged? |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 48 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2019 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2022 | Dec 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: wantawin "So you are saying AFC are going to more than double their gates at Plough Lane from the gates they had at Kings Meadow.'"
Wimbledon vs Burton, January 28 2020 (the last fixture between the two at Kingsmeadow): 3,674.
Wimbledon vs Burton, October 2 2021 (Plough Lane): 7,413
I make that more than double
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Fringe Player | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2021 | 3 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Mash Tun "Wimbledon vs Burton, January 28 2020 (the last fixture between the two at Kingsmeadow): 3,674.
Wimbledon vs Burton, October 2 2021 (Plough Lane): 7,413
I make that more than double
Absolutely, although the Kingsmeadow match was midweek!
Of course with only around 7,700 (including Hospitality) available to Wimbledon fans, so basically it's impossible to double the Kingsmeadow season average attendances playing Burton when they bring less than 400 fans.
I expect a solid 7,500+ average this season which may actually squeeze AFC Wimbledon into the top half of the division on attendances.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
First Team Player | 1705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2021 | 4 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
78489_1618348897.png :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png |
|
| Quote: Smithers99 "Absolutely, although the Kingsmeadow match was midweek!
Of course with only around 7,700 (including Hospitality) available to Wimbledon fans, so basically it's impossible to double the Kingsmeadow season average attendances playing Burton when they bring less than 400 fans.
I expect a solid 7,500+ average this season which may actually squeeze AFC Wimbledon into the top half of the division on attendances.'"
Welcome to the boards smithers..,..AFC fans are what's needed here
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 48 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2019 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2022 | Dec 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Smithers99 "
I expect a solid 7,500+ average this season which may actually squeeze AFC Wimbledon into the top half of the division on attendances.'"
That would be very respectable. I guess more people are attracted to stadia with good facilities & transport connections than suburban ‘shabby chic’…
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
First Team Player | 1705 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2021 | 4 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
78489_1618348897.png :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png |
|
| Quote: Mash Tun "That would be very respectable. I guess more people are attracted to stadia with good facilities & transport connections than suburban ‘shabby chic’…'"
But only when the ticketing system works eh..
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 48 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2019 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2022 | Dec 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: orangeman "But only when the ticketing system works eh..'"
Like I said, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 382 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Mash Tun "Wimbledon vs Burton, January 28 2020 (the last fixture between the two at Kingsmeadow): 3,674.
Wimbledon vs Burton, October 2 2021 (Plough Lane): 7,413
I make that more than double
I talking about the average gate for the season which was over 4300 at Kings Medow.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1919 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
53919_1700999426.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53919.jpg |
|
| Quote: orangeman "Welcome to the boards smithers..,..AFC fans are what's needed here
No need to be rude. I'm quite happy for any AFC fan to post their view on things good or bad. You need some horlicks & off to bed.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Fringe Player | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2021 | 3 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: orangeman "Welcome to the boards smithers..,..AFC fans are what's needed here
I fall into the category as a family who simply found Kingsmeadow as a stadium unenjoyable because unless you got a good seat you couldn't see anything. It probably improved over the years but initially standing with no elevation wasn't fun. AFC Wimbledon were always too big for that style of stadium, my view may have been very different if crowds were around 1,000., .
So were effectively waiting for a new stadium.where it wasn't pot luck what you could see (on the pitch) on the day. I'm excited that the London Broncos will hopefully play at the new Plough Lane and have been reading this board for a while in anticipation. The home fixture list WILL go in my diary next year with the expectation of attending many.
I don't know enough about the DNA of the Broncos to comment on what's right. In terms of the actual stadium (Plough Lane) if feels to me ideal. I’d love it to work for the Broncos, and if affordable, it offers so much. The Fans Zone behind the South and East Stands has surprised everyone. Local breweries, street food vans etc. The scope here for the Broncos is huge, especially with the summer season. Hopefully the agreement allows the Broncos to make money in a similar way...
I honestly can’t believe how good a stadium AFC Wimbledon have built, it’s beyond what the hardcore and the “hangers on” like me believed we were getting and it can be expanded from 9,200 to 20,000 if necessary and affordable in the future. I do feel it will work very well for a field sports team, but I can't say if it's right for the Broncos either financially or location wise.
I assume the Broncos need to add new local support to the existing hardcore. AFC Wimbledon supporters being a captive market in that they are already sold on the stadium. We've already bumped in to people at the ground or spoken to/been told of indirectly of, who have been to their first ever AFC Wimbledon match this season. They or similar people will no doubt do the same London Broncos matches. Even better will be enticing back some of those supporters lost to the Broncos. .
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5128 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
1428_1727693289.png [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae-HziERgfk:p2kbb0c5]Gus Mackay we salute you!![/url:p2kbb0c5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1428.png |
|
| Quote: Smithers99 "I fall into the category as a family who simply found Kingsmeadow as a stadium unenjoyable because unless you got a good seat you couldn't see anything. It probably improved over the years but initially standing with no elevation wasn't fun. AFC Wimbledon were always too big for that style of stadium, my view may have been very different if crowds were around 1,000., .
So were effectively waiting for a new stadium.where it wasn't pot luck what you could see (on the pitch) on the day. I'm excited that the London Broncos will hopefully play at the new Plough Lane and have been reading this board for a while in anticipation. The home fixture list WILL go in my diary next year with the expectation of attending many.
I don't know enough about the DNA of the Broncos to comment on what's right. In terms of the actual stadium (Plough Lane) if feels to me ideal. I’d love it to work for the Broncos, and if affordable, it offers so much. The Fans Zone behind the South and East Stands has surprised everyone. Local breweries, street food vans etc. The scope here for the Broncos is huge, especially with the summer season. Hopefully the agreement allows the Broncos to make money in a similar way...
I honestly can’t believe how good a stadium AFC Wimbledon have built, it’s beyond what the hardcore and the “hangers on” like me believed we were getting and it can be expanded from 9,200 to 20,000 if necessary and affordable in the future. I do feel it will work very well for a field sports team, but I can't say if it's right for the Broncos either financially or location wise.
I assume the Broncos need to add new local support to the existing hardcore. AFC Wimbledon supporters being a captive market in that they are already sold on the stadium. We've already bumped in to people at the ground or spoken to/been told of indirectly of, who have been to their first ever AFC Wimbledon match this season. They or similar people will no doubt do the same London Broncos matches. Even better will be enticing back some of those supporters lost to the Broncos. .'"
I don't doubt that Plough Lane (as a facility) presents a good opportunity. The question is whether the Broncos who have the lowest crowds and worst squad in their history are in a good postion to take advantage of that (or should see another move as a priority).
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Fringe Player | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2021 | 3 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Deadcowboys1 "No need to be rude. I'm quite happy for any AFC fan to post their view on things good or bad. You need some horlicks & off to bed.'"
Before this season we'd been to two AFC Wimbledon matches since returning to the League ten years ago, and that includes the Wembley Play-Off. But as a family we've been sold on the new stadium, bought merchandise, gone to the Emirates to see the team in front of 57,000 fans, check what food vans are coming to each match and decide what we will eat.
If I was asked my favourite Rugby League team I would say the London Broncos without thinking. My only link to the sport was watching Saturday afternoon matches on Grandstand, so enough to have a casual understanding of the teams and the sport. I also kept a very close eye on the Broncos when they were being founded at Fulham. But I couldn't tell you the name and ground changes since with confidence. Similar to the London Monarchs (except I went to some Wembley matches), but couldn't say where they played afterwards.
So to have an iconic team (and they are in my opinion) playing locally at a stadium I find both relaxing and a great atmosphere is brilliant. I'm especially looking forward to watching matches live rather than on TV, a very different perspective for any sport. The fact it is a summer sport makes it even more enticing.
The new Plough Lane of course replaced the Greyhound stadium. I watched the Speedway, Stock Cars and Greyhounds there at times. But it wasn't a stadium I enjoyed. At the moment the new Plough Lane itself is making it a pleasure to visit and I think it could be a bit like the Theatre. I'd like to go to the Theatre, let's see what's on. I'd like to see some sport, what's on this weekend at Plough Lane, it's the Broncos. I know that reads a bit sickly as a comment, but seriously don't underestimate it as a small positive. Many of us have been exposed to a first visit to a sport (or similar) and become either hooked or at least a partial follower/attendee. Particularly powerful if you take young kids who love the experience.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Fringe Player | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2021 | 3 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: jbuzza "I don't doubt that Plough Lane (as a facility) presents a good opportunity. The question is whether the Broncos who have the lowest crowds and worst squad in their history are in a good postion to take advantage of that (or should see another move as a priority).'"
Totally agree. Easy for me just to say I'll rock up without the worries of the club failing. So I understand why the move may still not happen. From a selfish perspective I want the Broncos to move in, but if I were an existing fan I be concerned about the viability.
I don't no what has been contractually agreed, but I'd want to see a Broncos team that could thrive rather than one that was desperately trying to pay the tenancy fees. Of course the proposed amount is a very good income stream for AFC Wimbledon, but they have others such as the recently agreed Stadium Naming rights. It's a business first and foremost. The Dons Trust in particular recognises the bigger picture. They agreed to pay Kingstonian 1 million (coincidentally the same as the five year Broncos deal I believe) after selling Kinsmeadow to Chelsea. There was no obligation to pay that much, but it was done in good faith as Kingstonian were becoming homeless.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 1919 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2010 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
53919_1700999426.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53919.jpg |
|
| Smithers99, now you have played half a dozen home games with as you say decent crowds, how have the residents on what is a densly packed estate taken to the inconvenience?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 48 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2019 | 5 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2022 | Dec 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| As Smithers suggests, it cannot be overstated that use of Plough Lane’s fan-friendly facilities to create an event culture is key.
Making people feel like they’ve had a decent day out regardless of the actual rugby will be very important.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Fringe Player | 322 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2021 | 3 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Deadcowboys1 "Smithers99, now you have played half a dozen home games with as you say decent crowds, how have the residents on what is a densly packed estate taken to the inconvenience?'"
Before I respond, as a local resident, I'm going to see if I can take a look at our local nextdoor group to see if there have been any comments. Access to that site isn't my household activity; I get the jobs such as putting the bins out for collection!
|
|
|
|
|
|