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I think we can all agree with you on the final paragraph. That's the worst thing, this was not inevitable at all.

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Quote: "In reality we have a Chairman who has never shown any interest in working with fans and a funding gap that probably makes a full time fan owned club impractical. If someone can see a way forward, let them speak. Personally I can't.'"

Quote: "A semi pro fan owned Broncos is potentially possible but would it actually be a good idea? It would be fighting a proven semi proven semi pro team for the same players. Skolars have a junior set up, Broncos wouldn't.(The academy would require third party funding to survive realistically.) We'd end up with wage inflation for the few people interested in playing that level, and two weak teams probably dragging each other under.'"

I believe in our sport and have always been of the opinion that a well run and stable pro club should be able to operate without subsidy from a Sugar Daddy. The issue for us of course is the well run and stable bit; this will only come post Hughes and only he determines how smooth any transition would or could be. I hope he thinks long and hard about his legacy - it is still not too late to make it a good one!
Super League clubs (the successful ones!) are probably equal in size to Conference football teams; Leeds and Catalans operating budgets for this year are reported at around £8m, everyone else is lower than that. To deliver this in London would be at least a ten year project (with no start date as yet) but with hard work and vision it can be done. Find a host commmunity (I don't think Edgeware is the one for long term success) and stick with it - we can deliver a meaningful and growing junior setup whatever level we'll be playing in.
The reality of course is that in 2016 the Club will probably need to transition to part time anyway so speculation about a part or full time supporter owned Broncos is really not relevant. That would be the starting position for any new regime - supporter owned or not - and I trust we the fans more than any here today gone tomorrow Sugar Daddy to deliver long term for Rugby League in London.
At the end of last season when we didn't know whether there would be a Broncos or not, my wife and I lobbied fans for interest in a possible Supporters Trust. Even in those circumstances many people with really useful skills for such an enterprise came forward, and a lot of people pledged four figure annual contributions to help deliver a successful Broncos.
I hope that we get an opportunity to shape the Club's future; the time to start this is long overdue but we must not dismiss what we can achieve with hard work and focus.

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Quote: gutterfax "Feel free to post where I wormed out of anything of the sort or retract your inaccurate and wholly false accusation........
Here's the exchange you're referring to.....

.....If you're going to tell porkies, can I suggest you think them through first? It'll stop you looking like a loving idiot and a bitter one at that.....will you retract, or are you the spineless one here that can't admit your mistake?'"


M'Lud, I refer the honourable genetlemen to the statement 'Homeless in 2015 ......'

We need say no more.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: PC Plum "M'Lud, I refer the honourable genetlemen to the statement 'Homeless in 2015 ......'

We need say no more.'"

Are you drunk?
You said I'd wormed out of a possible face to face with Hughes to enquire as to what his intentions are post 2015.........I have not the foggiest what the thread regarding 2015's venue for home games )still TBC) has to so with your blatant lie!
Man up and admit you were wrong or are you truly spineless?

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Quote: gutterfax "Are you drunk?
You said I'd wormed out of a possible face to face with Hughes to enquire as to what his intentions are post 2015.........I have not the foggiest what the thread regarding 2015's venue for home games )still TBC) has to so with your blatant lie!
Man up and admit you were wrong or are you truly spineless?'"


icon_biggrin.gifRUNK: you really are wound up.

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Quote: gutterfax "The only positive I can see from the club is that when it goes over the cliff, you and the other fanboys who go with it won't feel any pain because your grinning inanely, thankful that you had a team to follow in he first place!'"

So those of us who are loyal to the club are now derided as 'fanboys' are we? The fact that you exclude yourself speaks volumes.

Let me tell you something you would only know if you actually went to games. A load of Hull KR fans told us how they'd stuck with HKR when they were down to a few hundred fans ,when they were days from folding for good, when there seemed no hope, when they were in a similar position to where we are now. They were full of encouragement and told us to keep the faith and stick with it, they'd turned the corner and so would we.

They might be right, they might be wrong, but those remarks from true die hard fans of the game and their club mean far more to me that the inane name calling of someone thousands of miles away telling everybody how important he is.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Perry "So those of us who are loyal to the club are now derided as 'fanboys' are we? The fact that you exclude yourself speaks volumes.

Let me tell you something you would only know if you actually went to games. A load of Hull KR fans told us how they'd stuck with HKR when they were down to a few hundred fans ,when they were days from folding for good, when there seemed no hope, when they were in a similar position to where we are now. They were full of encouragement and told us to keep the faith and stick with it, they'd turned the corner and so would we.

They might be right, they might be wrong, but those remarks from true die hard fans of the game and their club mean far more to me that the inane name calling of someone thousands of miles away telling everybody how important he is.'"

Oh....because as you've said elsewhere, your a REAL fan because you're there. Tell me. How much more money have you contributed to the club this year than me? Surely it's loads because you're THERE right?
Get a grip. HKR are a club with a pedigree and a strong ethic of inclusion of their fans.....Londons SL club under the ownership of Hughes is his ing toy....a plaything that he has ruined, but he' not bothered about because he really doesn't give a flying one about the fans.
And yes, I use the word fanboy, but I do so towards posters on here that 'BELIEVE that we will be back to the top table when the reality is that unless hughes commits to 10 years or finds someone else to,were gone at the end of 2015 as a professional team.....

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



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having lies spouted about me and 3 hourly feeds of a newborn is enough for any man.....but it's nice to know that it is you who wriggles rather than man up and admit you were wrong!
By the way, if I were truly wound up it would probably be the most passionate any Broncos supporter has got this year in relation to the club....... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "The Club used to read these boards, but now they prefer to ignore the thoughts of the few (getting fewer) fans they have and plough on with their master-plan for making the club stable enough to stand on its own....
You said "I won't take it lying down". This presumably means you are doing something. What is it that you are doing?

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Quote: gutterfax "Oh....because as you've said elsewhere, your a REAL fan because you're there.'"
Yes I am.

Quote: gutterfax "Tell me. How much more money have you contributed to the club this year than me?'"
Oh look, another bit of self promotion.

Quote: gutterfax "Get a grip.'"
You get a grip and stop belittling those who continue to go to games.

Quote: gutterfax "HKR are a club with a pedigree and a strong ethic of inclusion of their fans...'"
Now they have, wasn't always that way.

Quote: gutterfax "And yes, I use the word fanboy'"
Of course you do because you deride anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of your opinions

Quote: gutterfax "were gone at the end of 2015 as a professional team.....'"
Probably, and I don't give a toss. When I started supporting London Broncos I didn't add the caveat "but only if you stay in SL".

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Will ask again.
so gutters, what are you going to do about it

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: mickyb1234 "Will ask again.
so gutters, what are you going to do about it'"

Why should I have to do anything? This is an Internet forum where opinions are aired......or is it normal for posters on here to go to training sessions and tell the coaching staff to work on wide defense?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Perry "Oh look, another bit of self promotion.'"

No. It was a genuine question. Being there is obviously a key component to being a true fan in your eyes, so I repeat, how much more have you contributed to the club by being there this year? I haven't given Kleanthouse a brass farthing as yet, because a) I am not in the UK and b) because of the set up of the on-line shop is such that they want to charge me VAT and insanely inflated postage. Oh...and c) because he isn't he club, but instead a pseudo landlord paid by the RFL so as to facilitate the 3rd year of our licence that Hughes shouldn't have applied for if he was going to be an idiot and try and "negotiate" with the RFL again.
So...how much have you given the CLUB this year? Surely it's hundreds or possibly thousands of pounds more than me....because I can't (according to your idiotic guidelines) be a REAL fan c020.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Why should I have to do anything? '"


But you said you're not standing for it. Was that inaccurate?

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Quote: gutterfax "having lies spouted about me and 3 hourly feeds of a newborn is enough for any man.....but it's nice to know that it is you who wriggles rather than man up and admit you were wrong!
By the way, if I were truly wound up it would probably be the most passionate any Broncos supporter has got this year in relation to the club.......
OUCH I have just touched a raw nerve

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