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Some of up take our head out of the sand from time to time. That said, I have given up participanting in any discussions on the topic, its pointless speculating what might be done while the clowns that are currently running our club are killing it. I look forward to congratulating them on their success at the end of the season and I bet there are still posters on here who are still in denial.

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And I assume that those who are throwing a wobbly at the idea of someone on here claiming they could do a better job running the club, are similarly critical of those on here who have blasted Powell and dared to question any of the team performances. After all, Powell is far more qualified than any of us. Bow down.

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Quote: wire quin "Yed-What are the bar staff like in the concrete corridors of the HJ stadium?'"

The take exactly the same only with 6 times more people.

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Quote: tw15 "There's some people in this forum who believe they can do a better job than the current owners. I would respectfully point out that DH knows enough about running a business to have £1.5 million a year to spend on his hobby. I have my own business, but I haven't had that level of success. I don't feel I should be telling him what to do when he seems to be able to run a business far better than I. I don't know the situation of those complaining and whether they have a business track record similar to DH. If they have, then please do invest in the company and implement their ideas. '"


With respect to Dave Hughes for all the money he pours into this black hole that is this club, he knows next to nothing about running a business. He's an oil and gas trader.

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Quote: nadera78 "With respect to Dave Hughes for all the money he pours into this black hole that is this club, he knows next to nothing about running a business. He's an oil and gas trader.'"


Name me many owners of Super League clubs who know anything about running a business, that is what you employ people for, like a CEO!

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Quote: jaybs "Name me many owners of Super League clubs who know anything about running a business, that is what you employ people for, like a CEO!'"


I was replying to the poster who suggested Hughes knows all he needs to about running this business.

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Quote: Dave Lister "And I assume that those who are throwing a wobbly at the idea of someone on here claiming they could do a better job running the club, are similarly critical of those on here who have blasted Powell and dared to question any of the team performances. After all, Powell is far more qualified than any of us. Bow down.'"


I think you and I need to get hold of some of those positivity pills.
You know, the ones RP must take prior to writing those matchday programme notes. icon_smile.gif

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Oh come on your can't knock Powell after all his after match speeches are an inspiration, (who to I don't know but he spouts the words of good job done and getting better etc. etc.) and you have to praise the guy for his determination and confidence - well he does think he is doing a good job or should that read you have to praise the guy for his arrogance and stupidity - see I could do his job I am as confused as he is. TW15 we are not at all negative on here in fact I would say we are pretty confident bunch - we are all pretty confident we can do a better job

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Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him.

Just think, it may not be his fault that he was given the top job too early...it is other peoples decisions that have put him there. (and may very well be to his long term detriment).

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Quote: tw15 "While I am fed up with the team not performing, I'm finding the negativity in the forum more fed-up-make-able. We won a game; we won by 70 points. Maybe the team will keep the success going. '"

Well aware the team hammered a Championship side with 8 first team squad players pulled die to duel registrations.......nothing to get excited about.

Quote: tw15 "There's some people in this forum who believe they can do a better job than the current owners. '"

I KNOW I could do a better job of running the club if DH gave me 1.5 million a year on top of the 1.5 SKY money .....I have never said I could donate 1.5 million a year into a black hole...

Quote: tw15 "I would respectfully point out that DH knows enough about running a business to have £1.5 million a year to spend on his hobby.'"

He is a commodaties trader.......buying and selling high and low.......niche business and not at all related to the running of a minority sport pro club 2000 miles from its heartland.

Quote: tw15 " I have my own business, but I haven't had that level of success. I don't feel I should be telling him what to do when he seems to be able to run a business far better than I.'"

I also own my own business....part of what me and my team do, is advise sporting clubs in NZ on how to attract fans back to games....It is what I do for a living....apparently we are pretty good at it, so yes, I will offer advice whether it's listened to or not......

Quote: tw15 "I don't know the situation of those complaining and whether they have a business track record similar to DH. If they have, then please do invest in the company and implement their ideas. '"

I can assure you, if I had 5 million, I would have taken the IL shares off him in a heartbeat and the team would have a minimum of 5k fans to play in front of at home games......and again, DH is a successful commodities trader.....

Quote: tw15 "As fans, we have every right to complain if the shop isn't stocked. We have the right to complain about the team's performance, the price of tickets, OTR games and the quality of the pies. We can complain about the "product" but behind the scenes stuff is really up to the owners.'"


stick your head in the sand some more....when you look up, the club will have vanished if they don't change tactics....

Let's get back to this one again

Simply put.......this is the Marketing strategy I put to the club back in 2002.....

2002.....Broncos average gate..3,803......add 5% a year to that and you end up with an average of 6,200 (appx) by 2012. In my many many posts on the subject of attracting more fans, there have been ideas that would have cost nothing, or at worst, seen a minimal spend on marketing materials............but the club did their own thing (nothing)

Fast forward 10 years +.....The club have played in the same area .....(less than 4 miles between grounds)......if they start adding 5% a season now, they'd be on 4,346 by 2022...... and not near 6,200 for another 7 years after thatd040.gif

Tell me........who's business plan is working? I suggested the above strategy to the then marketing team at the club in 2002..........5% a year.........190 more at each game....then 200 the year after....

Now the club are asking all 890 ST holders to bring mates ...that would have been a good idea in 2002.......but in 2012 it's too little too late. It would also have helped if the club had a plan B for when this masterstroke failed.......and by plan B, I don't mean blaming the players........we've had crap seasons before...2010 we had 3,380 as our average....20% more than this year in 2004 we wre really bad....3,460 average.......and the name change was supposed to INCREASE GATES eusa_wall.gif eusa_wall.gif

To put the 5% increase a year for 10 years into perspective....at a tenner a ticket, 806,000 in Ticket revenue in 2012 would have been the income in 2012 if we had a 6,200 average gate...........
....this year they are tracking for 347k.....that's 460k less at the gate, about the same again if not more in residuals and no interest from sponsors.......dare I say, in total......very close to the 1.5 million invested by the chairman?

All this from looking to add 190 fans per game in 2003........and then another 200 per game in 2004.....etc.etc...etc....

hey...you continue with your "fed up" statements...I get no pleasure from saying I told them so, but it's a simple fact......years and years of neglect have resulted in a situation where 652 people bothered paying less than 10k in total to watch a game in a stadium that apparently costs us close to 30k to hire.......which according to you, is the sign of a well run business d040.gif

Fed Up? It's like watching a car crash in slow motion....... icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: Dan Stains woz God "Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him.

Just think, it may not be his fault that he was given the top job too early...it is other peoples decisions that have put him there. (and may very well be to his long term detriment).'"



Agree with that. I don't think anyone is in denial that we could be in a better position generally. No-one is that naïve to suggest that we need to improve in various areas of the club on and off the pitch.

As for the coach, I'm wondering if Tim Sheens, the current australian coach is a shıt coach. Afterall his team are 13th our of 16th in the NRL.

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Quote: Rooster Booster "As for the coach, I'm wondering if Tim Sheens, the current australian coach is a shıt coach. Afterall his team are 13th our of 16th in the NRL.'"

Depends if he gets a win on Friday or not.....and if the Kiwi born player he picked plays better than the 8 or so Australian born players the Kiwis have picked icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: Dan Stains woz God "Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him. '"


We get accused of having our heads in the sand! those who think they can coach or run the club better without knowing all the facts and seeing the books are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land!

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Quote: jaybs "
Quote: jaybs "Oh come on, I'm not having it that any bugga on here is a better coach than RP...unless you've all got the required qualifications? He may well be too young for a head coach role, but none of you idiots would be able to do any better.

As regards to his after match speeches, what do you expect him to say...we're a load of old tosh... may as well write the season off... Gowers useless...youngsters aren't up to it.. .the Londoners ain't no good? If he did that, everyone would still be knocking him. '"


We get accused of having our heads in the sand! those who think they can coach or run the club better without knowing all the facts and seeing the books are living in Cloud Cuckoo Land!'"


Yes, let's all cross our fingers and hope for an utter miracle rather that discussing what else could be done.

Fact: the club read the forum.

Fact: the club is in contact with forum users.

Fact: the club has acted before on suggestions that have come from this forum.

The only person living in a cloud cuckoo land 200 miles away is you.

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Quote: gutterfax "Depends if he gets a win on Friday or not.....and if the Kiwi born player he picked plays better than the 8 or so Australian born players the Kiwis have picked Going?

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