] CapitalRL It was difficult not to respond knowing the way the club had treated him and the announcement of the signing of Randall, in my view, was the catalyst (Not for nothing is he known as Director of Rugby). There is only room for one hooker at this club! And you would think that he should be the one who virtually tops all the opta stats this season, in spite of having to play second row when DOR decides he wants to play hooker.

At the end of the day I would say that opting for Wakefield is a step up on were we are at the moment especially if the new owners there are able to put more money in. I really have not seen us in such dire straights player wise since the advent of SL (bring back Frankie Napoli).

If what I hear is true, you couldn't be nearer the truth.

As I have said, lets wait until Monday when his interview comes out . It may be revealing.

How about if Olly Wilkes follows Ellis?

Wilkes wont get the wage at Wakey he is getting at Quins.

How'd you work out that one then? Do you know what his wage is?

I heard he had doubled his wage when he came to Quins from Wakey, so it could be true!

That was my first time in ages listening to the BBC London Radio show and I had to laugh at the 'everything's fine' attitude generated despite the departure of Ellis. My text was fobbed off with the general air of 'well he wanted to go back up north anyway'. That may well be the case, but why haven't we made more of an effort to keep him? Who on earth thinks Chad Randall is worth a contract more than Andy Ellis?

If the rumours are true and we didn't even offer Ellis a new contract.....god almighty

I just had a peek at Andy's Twitter page....and I quote ".Gutted to be leaving and not my choice " ....Very depressed over this.....The last few years as a Quins fan as been a struggle to keep up enthusiasm (and to be honest I think its been more about the friendships and cameraderie that has my wife and I attending week in week out) but how much more does the club think we can take???

Why was he not offered a contract, and Randall was? Some one should explain, but I am not holding my breath!

I'm absolutely seething about this. I've had enough.

If you didn't know better, you would think someone is trying very hard to p*ss us all off. Our two best forwards gone in a day and no explanation. Building for next season my rs.

Deeply depressing.............................

By the sounds of it resigning Randall is a catalyst for a few things, losing Ellis is gutting especially if we didn't even try to keep him. Would rather him than rinaldi. Wouldn't rush to sign the worrinceys back unless they were extra squad members but I know we don't have the luxury of thy type of thing. Let's hope we use all the salary cap up next year and start a completely fresh page ( the team sheets will be very different next year, a good number of our team are loanees or on trial and I'm not sure which of them I'd want to keep on) because after all we have complained so much this year about bad performances and they aren't all down to coaching a new look team could be what we need

That would be true if Wakefield were not the superior club in almost every respect. Soon to be every respect when Newmarket arrives. Ellis knows this, he' needs to be where RL matters at a club that can only go forward.

You must be delusional if you think otherwise, Quins is a backwater. Your arrogance is stunning for the worst supported team in SL.

Thanks! I had missed that, really disappointed with the Club, what a summer, between the way we seem to be going and Big Fat Sam at my footie club all ex Bolton players and no time it seems for West Ham youngsters, life is not easy LOL

I can only hope that the club has got players of such calibre coming in for next season, that Andy Ellis & Oliver Wilkes could not see themselves as guaranteed first choice players so have decided to go elsewhere to get their First Team rugby.
Will be really sorry to see these two go but will have to wait & see what the future brings !!