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Quote: Londo06 "Tad harsh, maybe the biggest dreamer, but it should be the aim of a sports club to own their own facilities, when feasible and financially viable.'"


Someone who thinks we should leave The Stoop for some sort of mythical facility of our own with money grown on trees is a fool. It might be a subjective assessment but I don't really care.

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Revert to the London Bronco's and stay at the Stoop.


Realistically there is never going to be the finance to fund our own ground.

Even the Saints Board must have some sleepless nights over their new ground. Poor attendences at Widnes, realtively speaking, at a time when they need the cash.

As for going on the road, where is the evidence to even suggest that it will actually increase attendences? For every additional fan you add you will probably one ( no evidence available to back that up either).

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Done - Glad they have done this. Just hope they take on board what has been suggested.

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Done - London Broncos (with suggestion of London Ravens or London Lions) playing in Red and remaining at The Stoop. We've done enough moving stadiums, we play at a great venue, we need to lay down roots over the long term.

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Quote: Gamer 111 "Done - Glad they have done this. Just hope they take on board what has been suggested.'"


But as I stated how do they recognise which are the opinions of true supporters when the link has been given by rugby league fans on facebook?

We may never be able to own our own ground but we may be able to be joint owners something that will never happen at The Stoop, we must start looking as Plan B if we see no improvement at the stoop, what happens if Quins RU ever want to kick us out, though they must be laughing all the way to the bank currently.

Yes St Helens showed they got their business plans badly wrong! why did they move out of Knowsley Road before work on the new ground was even under way? it took them all the time to get St Helens supporters to Knowsley Road never mind Widnes, 7,000 again last week, will that even cover basic costs of players wages. St Helens Council invested into the new ground which did not please a lot of residents when only 3% of the Town support or show allegiance to the club. But look at Warrington, average attendances or 7,500 at Wilderspool (which is still used by the reserve teams and amateur clubs for finals) and now 10,000 plus. Next season I would be shocked if Saints do not attract average 14,000 plus attendances, plus they have facilities for conferences, events and community use 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year bringing in income, also I feel it what has attracted Typhoo tea to become their main shirt sponsor for the next two seasons, with promotion on tea boxes! etc

At times you have to think outside of the box and not just sit comfortable, if you do not take risks will you ever see real development.

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Quote: jaybs "IF we only ever want to pay rent forever that is a very blinkered attitude, so I am a dreamer then, well I would rather be glass half full and think we can have a future rather than stick in the muds half glass empty all the time, as far as The Penguin it takes a lot more these days to upset me then him and his constant attacks at anything I may say different than his single tracked opinion! so no sleep lost there'"


I want our own home, but we shouldn't be the desperate middle-aged woman who jumps on a man when he shows her the slightest bit of attention, we should do it for the right reasons and those are when it is feasible behinds the scenes and when we can afford to do it without impacting our limited resources. We don't want to go down the road of Oxfords Kassam Stadium or Valencia's half-built stadium when money runs dry.

I am totally supportive of any preparitive research, either for a purpose-built stadium of our own or potential new stadiums as our lease at the Stoop ends at the end of the 2013 season and Harlequin F.C. may decide they do not need us (cut your nose to spite your face maybe but old in their ways union types are as bad as old in their way league types) and we may need to find somewhere that can accomodate our needs.

In the medium-term I am happy to stay at the Stoop, the atmosphere seems so much more positive being just a few feet closer to the action, and as others have stated it does offer a quality match-day experience. I'm not afraid to look beyond the Stoop, happy to stay there for now, but we must be proactive in looking after ourselves because our landlord may kick as out in a few years and it isn't like we can kip on a mates sofa for a few weeks.

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Quote: The Penguin "Someone who thinks we should leave The Stoop for some sort of mythical facility of our own with money grown on trees is a fool. It might be a subjective assessment but I don't really care.'"


No-ones saying it will happen tomorrow or even before this decade is out, but it is not beyond the realm of possibilties that there could be a second ground in London that regularly stages top-flight rugby. I believe it is a genuine possibility and an aim that has at least be put down in writing by the club, not in the short-term, nor the medium-term, but unless the government offer us a facility on a long-term lease we should aim to own and operate our facility, something to build a business upon, rather than struggle by in. But more than happy to struggle for now.

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Kit to be green [ the green machine ] lets be different and stand out , too many red and whites
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St Helens new ground £25million,Salford's £26million.

Where the hell are we going to get that kind of money?, actually more due to land prices.

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Quote: mickyb1234 "listy i cant believe you are upset with the site they used for the survey!!!! you got shares in another one or what'"


How am I upset? I think its amusing, that's all. We are using the same means of research as a student doing their dissertation. Very professional. Can you imagine Manchester United releasing something on Survey Monkey?

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Quote: Dave Lister "How am I upset? I think its amusing, that's all. We are using the same means of research as a student doing their dissertation. Very professional. Can you imagine Manchester United releasing something on Survey Monkey?'"


Let's ask the student:

please discuss the financial differences between MUFC and Harlequins RL!

One has loads of debt the other has 3,000 fans LOL.

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Quote: poplar panther "Let's ask the student

Indeed, it highlights how pathetic we are, hence the amusement.

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How many of the local population are aware that there is a Rugby League side who play in the top flight on their doorstep?
How many of the local population are aware that Harlequins RL are playing Wigan this saturday with a 3 pm ko?

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Quote: Huddersfield1895 "How many of the local population are aware that there is a Rugby League side who play in the top flight on their doorstep?
How many of the local population are aware that Harlequins RL are playing Wigan this saturday with a 3 pm ko?'"


You could always use survey monkey to get an answer a026.gif

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Quote: Dave Lister "How am I upset? I think its amusing, that's all. We are using the same means of research as a student doing their dissertation. Very professional. Can you imagine Manchester United releasing something on Survey Monkey?'"


My initial doubt was whether it was authentic. Anyone could have created that survey and posted here.

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