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A bit off topic I know but are the Toronto side helped in anyway by the Rfl as some of their staff on Twitter in their profiles say they are employed by the Wolfpack and the Rfl. If so you can see why they are getting so much media coverage.Shame they didn't help London so much in regards to marketing.

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think carolyn flowers is on secondment to them

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Quote: gardener "A bit off topic I know but are the Toronto side helped in anyway by the Rfl as some of their staff on Twitter in their profiles say they are employed by the Wolfpack and the Rfl. If so you can see why they are getting so much media coverage.Shame they didn't help London so much in regards to marketing.'"


I think their media coverage is down to professionalism, hardwork and the unique story that they are able to tell.

London cannot lay the blame at the feet of the RFL on this one. While they may be an average governing body, they arent to blame for the state of our club.

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Am interested why anyone would expect the RFL to help with marketing broncos compared to Toronto. We have been going 35 plus years Toronto are brand new therefore newsworthy.
Why are they getting so much media coverage? Because it's news! It gets Rugby League on prime time news channel. Premier have decided to show all their games, why? Because it's newsworthy!
5 years time assuming they are still going then see how much coverage they get.
Not sure it's down to any professionalism at the club, nothing we could do at Broncos would increase our TV coverage.

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Quote: hindyscrack "I think their media coverage is down to professionalism, hardwork and the unique story that they are able to tell.

London cannot lay the blame at the feet of the RFL on this one. While they may be an average governing body, they arent to blame for the state of our club.'"


Wolfpack (and Eric Perez) have been a breath of fresh air in this stale sport of ours.

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Agree, great to have someone involved in the game thats not of the regular insular thinking mould. Understands that for their dream to thrive they need to bring the rest of the league and sport up with them.

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The involvement of Eric Perez cannot be a bad thing for our sport. He might end up ruffling a few feathers, but good luck to him. The top of the game needs sorting out anyway.

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Isn't that what we said about the good doctor at Salford.
I really do hope this whole venture succeeds, it will be interesting to see what the Toronto public think about it in a years time. As for other north American teams and thus venture it's all good and we'll as long as they have deep pockets to pay for the away team travel but when they stop paying then asking teams like Coventry Hemel Oxford etc to sustain the costs of transport for a trans Atlantic competition might be a step to far.
Funny though with Mr Perez is he not just a very rich man with a rugby league team as his personal toy, thought we disapproved of that sort of thing?

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Quote: mickyb1234 "Isn't that what we said about the good doctor at Salford.
I really do hope this whole venture succeeds, it will be interesting to see what the Toronto public think about it in a years time. As for other north American teams and thus venture it's all good and we'll as long as they have deep pockets to pay for the away team travel but when they stop paying then asking teams like Coventry Hemel Oxford etc to sustain the costs of transport for a trans Atlantic competition might be a step to far.
Funny though with Mr Perez is he not just a very rich man with a rugby league team as his personal toy, thought we disapproved of that sort of thing?'"


If that was so, then he wouldn't bother marketing his club both in Canada and the UK, would he? He'd just set it up, enter the comp, play the games, enjoy watching them, perhaps hope a few others come along too, and that would be that.

In truth, he couldn't be further removed from David Hughes. He's doing absolutely everything possible to promote the club, to attract investors (he's Chairman but the main money comes from other people he's brought on board) to generate corporate and supporter interest, and to make a mark in the game. A game he came to almost by chance in Canada, when it was first getting started and he helped out with some promotional work. He's even sold his business to put this thing together. Eric Perez and the Toronto Wolfpack are probably the best chance the game has of ever breaking out of the North of England and the small town / small time mentality that pervades. I hope they rocket through the leagues into SL, and in the process encourage others to follow them.

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Feel I touched a nerve there!
As I said I hope it succeeds but and it's a big but! With clubs in championship that cannot afford to make ends meet as it is I struggle to see how it's financially viable for clubs to afford an Atlantic crossing to play a game it's hard enough for em to afford toulouse. We travel up and down to the m62 to keep costs down nothing else
As for my point of it being a rich man's plaything, I don't know any other sport where the home team would cover all the costs of everyone to come to them!

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Well only this week the RFL have stated they are willing to consider existing Super League clubs moving to major Cities to play their home games?

I congratulate the Toronto owner, season ticket sales are amazing as well as merchandise, he is doing something right.

IF we do not start making some serious progress as a game I think we better look backwards and go semi professional again, as we are not developing and getting the high financial backers we need to go forward.

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The statement re big city "franchise" move seems very odd. Yes it has worked for wasps RU and a lot of there fans seem happy to travel up the m40 for games. If you move for example, widnes to Birmingham how many widnes fans would follow them down there every week I would suggest a big fat zero! It would have to be a new club.
Big city rugby I did think London was a big city.

The only way I could see this ever happening would be by ripping up what we have and starting again, then have a regional top flight competition. East Yorkshire (hull & hull kr) West Yorkshire (Leeds Bradford cas wakey) maybe even just one yorks team in big city Leeds, lancs (Wigan wire widnes) big city Manchester, then you could have Cumbria team big city hmmmm, NE team in newcastle, E mids nottingham or leicester, West mids birmingham, south West bristol, Wales Cardiff, SE London. But where are the fans coming from? It's never gonna happen in my life time.
If the RFL seriously though this was the way ahead then they should have said to Bradford "why not start up a new club elsewhere "?

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Cricket is looking at re branding to city one dayers to be played in soccer grounds etc

Don't be afraid of change the world is moving very fast. We will fall further behind whilst we wait for Batley, Fev, Bulls, Fax to become BIG

That's 1950's stuff lets move on. Darts amazing transformation, Snooker time limit for shots, cricket 20;20 games, RL tried franchise dropped it now back in the past! Fatty has to go. We need a visonary

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Can't disagree with you mate, maybe Toronto will push it on. Was European super league not meant to be the big change to big city rugby London, Paris, Cardiff!
Our sport has embraced change in the past with intro of SL and move to summer the next change might be the transfer Atlantic push but it needs a massive cash injection if it's going to make any real change.

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I hope Toronto becomes a huge success. It's just a pity it wasn't us that started the big shift.

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