Quins are developing the future of the game down south with fantastic results. That's why Quins will remain. Over the previous 30 years there hasn't been the same amount of development. Now this is in place it's all about the long game.

Good Call.

I've also thought some crowds in the last 2 years have been much lower than announced

The most revealing thing for me is the slide in crowds since moving away from Charlton the first time. Year one at the Stoop was an even better year but the crowds dropped (my guess is that they'd have been much lower with a lower finish). Also its clear that people alarmingly stopped watching RL at the Stoop in the first 3 years there. By the time they moved back to Charlton a lot of momentum was lost and it was too late. I'm guessing that if the club had stayed at Charlton in 1997, then the 2nd finish woud have yielded a far bigger average than the 5k at the Stoop. The facts are that the Stoop has never been attractive for potential RL fans. In essence it is worth paying more rent to get bigger crowds, have a bigger profile etc

I predict sub 2k attendances next year as the norm if the clubs stays as Quins RL at the Stoop

I sincerely doubt it.

I know it`s been said many times but I cannot help but remind people.........sharing with a football team does not work for Quins and never has. No sooner will the RL season have started than as the `tenant` we will have to play `on the road` games because the pitch needs re-seeding etc.......it destroys the season, the fan base and any new following that you are trying to capture.

The Stoop is a great facility and a big asset for our club regardless of the fact we are now paying rent. I travel from South London and many fans have to travel a whole lot further, but I would not want to move from the Stoop.....(DH funding issues aside) what has been lacking is success on the pitch and a good, sustained marketing campaign. I just wish the RU side of the club would take up the challenge on the latter, they turned it round for themselves (be it in an RU area) and clearly have the skills and systems to make a go of it......we would be better off paying for their services and structure rather than reinventing the wheel and trying to go it alone.

Success on the pitch was there in 1997 - Result 5k averages. And that was before RU's rise at club level

The club could come top and the averages will be poor at the Stoop. No locals are interested

Waste of time

By the way. Wigan RLFC are "tenants" to Wigan Athletic. How many games do they play "on-the-road"?

Find a decent soccer groundshare and fund a special pitch that doesn't need re-seed (like at Hudds, Hull)

Otherwise we'll be doomed as a no mark nothing with no identity

P.S. I'm going to tonights game (in a Broncos shirt). I was hoping there would be an announcement that the club would be on the move/name change. I'm guessing all it is is some announcement along the lines "the clubs is staying as is at the Stoop and is safe - for one more season....."

sub-2k crowds next year

Wigan are not tenants of Athletic. The DW stadium is owned by a separate company and the two clubs have individual long term leases with it.

WRLFC. Get a perspective, if we don't have a London Club, we do unfortunately begin to look like a M62 Corridor Game, which really, really, isn't good. We need a club for Sky's Ad Revenue, because if Sky goes, Superleague and Rugby League is F*cked.

London needs to continue, they need to stay in the same place and rebuild, but part of that is getting better players and developing the players down there, and getting a top class coach. If you look at Huddersfield, we've developed our youth team, but we've balanced that with good australians and pacifics, and we've had the best results with a good coach, crowds have come with it, we're on the road to becoming a top club, with good, top-6 attendences. If quins were to do the same, through incentives and maybe the odd free game, there will be momentum gained by it.

Happy to be of service.

That's at least the 3rd time that you've said you won't be posting again on here. I expect to see a post from you again on here shortly, perhaps under a different name.

Born with it. Leads to a desire for accuracy.

Perhaps we'd better park it there?

..thirsty

Well as it's not the end, may as well end here