I think they do work and are essential for marketing aimed at and for young people, rather than just "Landan" - no problems with Titans!

Fair sized piece in this weeks "League Express" saying no decision made yet, it has to be London but what goes with it, they say one option is a sponsors name which makes sense, it does interestingly say that League Express understand an approach was made to Fullers for sponsorship with the Pride brand, but Fullers withdrew after speaking with the RFU! as they have several sponsorships with them??

In the League Express readers poll last week, which does not state how many participated, we just get % figures, percentages a marketers dream, the result:

58.1% London Broncos

25.8% London with another second name/moniker

8.1% London Quins

5.6% No name change

2.4% London Harlequins

So, when we revert to being Broncos and it has next to no impact on our attendances, what will you lot pick on next? The stadium? Gus Mackay? Buck and Dusty? The grass? The bar? Vince Cable?

It has to Vince Cable!

IF serious money is put into the re-launch, marquee players brought in, marketing really stepped up and it still does not work, whatever Ray French may say in his column that attendances are not the most important, I disagree and feel it is time to call it a day.

RL will always exist in London. If it fails in SL so be it, but the Skolars I hope will continue and we will be back. It is too good an idea to die!

Agree with everything you've said.

I also don't understand why we must be called 'London'. That gives nothing away. We could play anywhere in London, it's not gonna change anything with regards to crowd numbers. If we must re-name, then I'd rather we were called Richmond, as it least it shows the casual sports fan where we play. It also banishes the notion that we will moving around London again.

Did I say it was? LOL, at the end of the day fans will be considered but it will be a business decision and more important what the RFL, David Hughes and hopefully a major sponsor wants.

From what has been our most heated debate for a long time, there is very little agreement here in the forum and we are the few! The latest suggestion not to have London in the name personally I feel is a non starter from those who have the final decision, Richmond??

Perhaps I should have qualified more clearly and said Super League! if it is such a good idea why is it not working? in the North most clubs never had serious competition as we have in London from Premiership teams in football and union.

It is interesting that now even a rugby steeped town as St Helens the number of really loyal supporters is a very very small percentage of the population of what is only a town, this could be down to the number of people who have moved from Liverpool and that younger people follow football teams more than rugby league which does not have the same school or amateur young players numbers!

We have some high points in the 20 years but we never seem to have been able to build on it!

How about London Nomads since we are always moving around?

Well considering you used it as a reason for why we should be called Broncos again, I'd say it was.

What's wrong with Richmond? We play in the Borough of Richmond-upon-Thames. I'm a firm believer that we should be named after the Borough we play in, after all you don't see any football teams named 'London,' do you? There are no other teams called Richmond, except for Richmond RFC, but they're hardly a household name; therefore no one can be confused with any other teams regarding our name. It seems to be a Northern thing that we must be called London. I don't see why personally, you don't see Leeds being called 'Yorkshire Rhinos' or Warrington 'Cheshire Wolves'. It's a big place remember. If we are called London, inevitably the first question asked will be: "Where do they play?" At least if we're called Richmond, it's obvious whereabouts we play.

Anyway, as I've said before, I don't want a name change, I'm happy with Harlequins. What happens on the pitch is far more important and sorting our squad for next year, should be the top priority.

I would be surprised if that was true......Greene King IPA is the official beer of England Rugby Union (rlsourcerl).

A quick search of our old friend Google shows that Fullers have been known to run campaigns during the six nations (rlsourcerl) as well as other sports, but nothing official.
In 2009 the RFU complained to the ASA (rlSOURCErl) so I doubt the RFU and Fullers are even on speaking terms.

Loose and lazy journalism....nothing new there then

That is your opinion Pinkerton and I accept and respect you don't want a name change, but that would sign our death notice and there is no alternative now it is which name.

The only reason I do not like Richmond is that again I always think of Richmond RUFC, London for me with a further moniker broadens the interest and does not confine us to only attracting local residents.

Gutterfax if The League Express have made up such a story about Fullers as you seem to feel, I think the Brewers and our club such ask for a retraction and apology, but I just can't see them making up such a line, time will tell, but it seems clear it will not be Fullers and Pride.