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Gidley, Gardner, Meli, Wilkin, Wellens are not the fastest set of backs in SL. Whilst also accepting that Willis(Eastmond) and Wallace (Price) do have pace.

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Quote: Father Jack "warrington wont let penny play in cup games '"

Of course. icon_biggrin.gifOH: I forgot Penny played last time out. I was thinking 'Why are they saying that? They get half the cash.'

I'm rather glad that Penny isn't playing, actually. We might have a chance of winning properly this time, with no-one to out-jump our pitiful wingers! Of course, they could still be out-run but that's a risk we've been taking for years.

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Quote: east stander "Gidley, Gardner, Meli, Wilkin, Wellens are not the fastest set of backs in SL. '"

Um, that would be an understatement! However, Wilkin can do great interceptions, Meli is a mountain from 10ms, Gardner can actually tackle and Wello has an incredible ability to read a game, usually positioning himself beautifully (and I never quite figure out how he gets where he does, given his slow pace). So these things outweigh their snail-like qualities.

Quote: east stander "Whilst also accepting that Willis(Eastmond) and Wallace (Price) do have pace.'"

Oh, they do. They have a neat sidestep too! And good kicking games. I believe Wello is back for the Leeds match. Assuming we come through that and subsequent matches in one piece (not an assumption I like to make, given our record of injuries so far this season), Kyle and Leon could cause you problems. They were just really beginning to gell when we lost Wello and then Lomax (substitute fullback) to injury, meaning Leon filled in and we lost the halfback pairing.

However, this was not the match I wanted for the fifth round. It's too difficult. I am still bemoaning the fact that Leeds got Blackpool and not us! icon_cry.gif

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I was gutted quins didn't get blackpool away. What a weekend out that would be.

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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that. [/quote] Another classic: [quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban. Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player. Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666 0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match". Therefore ZERO.[/quote] Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg



Quote: east stander "Gidley, Gardner, Meli, Wilkin, Wellens are not the fastest set of backs in SL. Whilst also accepting that Willis(Eastmond) and Wallace (Price) do have pace.'"



Meli Isnt as slow as some like to make out,the rest are mind.
Wilkin's a back rower who has been playing In the backs through injuries.

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Still, we reversed an 8-point home league defeat last round, what's to stop us doing it again?

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Quote: Mr Sheen "Still, we reversed an 8-point home league defeat last round, what's to stop us doing it again?'"


17 blokes in white shirts with a red v on them.

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Quote: Jeff in Devizes "17 blokes in white shirts with a red v on them.'"

Apart from them?

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It seems like Saints have had a winning spine to their team for many years - Wellens at fullback, Lyon or Gidley at Centre, Martyn or Pryce at Stand Off, Long at Scrum Half, Graham at Prop, Cunningham/Roby as the two Hookers and Sculthorpe at Loose Forward. They have also had the knack of signing Aussie Props who have given great service for a year or two.

I would say that many of these players are now in the Autumn of their career, or have even retired and the other players around them cause me no fear - I do not think the likes of Gardner, Meli, Clough and Flannery nor the youngsters are any better than an average SL player and are certainly beatable.

Clearly Saints will still be favourites but I would be genuinely shocked if they come down here and batter us again - it is only two years since we were turned over 54-0 on our ground with the usual mix of forward passes and 0 penalties for them in the game, but they had a great team then.

We will be competitive if we can avoid injuries with our best seventeen, even Cas and Wakefield are on their day plus the other teams who won't be in the 8. Take out just 2 or 3 players and these teams fold - Catalans, Crusaders etc. Our best team has run Saints close in two of the last three games.

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Quote: markrammond "I would say that many of these players are now in the Autumn of their career, or have even retired and the other players around them cause me no fear - I do not think the likes of Gardner, Meli, Clough and Flannery nor the youngsters are any better than an average SL player and are certainly beatable.'"

You must be the only RL fan to think Kyle Eastmond is no better than the average SL player. Deary me. Have you got that one wrong! If everyone is fit when we visit you, Leon and Kyle will cause your guys nightmares. They haven't been allowed to play together thanks to Wello and his stand-in Lomax (only 20) being injured. But they were starting to really gel and cause problems before those injuries hit.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: SaintsFan "You must be the only RL fan to think Kyle Eastmond is no better than the average SL player. Deary me. Have you got that one wrong! If everyone is fit when we visit you, Leon and Kyle will cause your guys nightmares. They haven't been allowed to play together thanks to Wello and his stand-in Lomax (only 20) being injured. But they were starting to really gel and cause problems before those injuries hit.'"


Eastmond is a class act. Leon can blow hot and cold, but Eastmond has matured into a cracking player already and if he keeps developing, he will become a great player. Kicked us to death last year at the stoop IIRC.

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Quote: gutterfax "Leon can blow hot and cold, '"

He can. But he has been on belting form so far this season. One of only a few Saints players that I can say that about!

Quote: gutterfax "but Eastmond has matured into a cracking player already and if he keeps developing, he will become a great player. '"

I agree. I hope he does keep developing not just for our sakes (assuming he stays with us of course) but also for England's.

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Is Eastmond the organizer to replace Long?

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Quote: wire-quin "Is Eastmond the organizer to replace Long?'"


Not really, but he wins games on his own. He's like Jason Robinson only more gifted.

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The difference being Robinson was a winger/full back

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