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wire quin wrote:Said with tongue in cheek I hope?
As a sideways thought. Are you aware that here in Oz Bennett is known more of a man manager than a motivator?'"
Whats the relevance of that post?
I dont suppose he is the fitness coach, Physio, Psychologist etc either but he will bring it all together which is what managers do- hence why coaches sometimes fail when stepping up.
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| Quote wire quin="wire quin"Whats the relevance of that post?
I dont suppose he is the fitness coach, Physio, Psychologist etc either but he will bring it all together which is what managers do- hence why coaches sometimes fail when stepping up.'"
Brain fa®t I guess.
Bennet's best conditioner was of course an Englishman. He won so much with him, but when he came to London, we didn't win a trophy. Just goes to show it's not just about fitness.
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| Boosty are you typing this with a Schooner in your hand?
Of course its not just about fitness. Where does it say it is? That said being fit helps!
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| Quote Dave Lister="Dave Lister"Would Leeds have won the Super League last year with Powell in charge?'"
So being better than Powell is the sign of a good coach now?
I'm not going to say anything bad against McDermott, he is another teams coach now and tried his best here, but you can't honestly think your comment is a benchmark to go by
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| Quote he is another teams coach now and tried his best here'"
Is Powell not trying his best?
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| Quote wire quin="wire quin"Boosty are you typing this with a Schooner in your hand?
Of course its not just about fitness. Where does it say it is? That said being fit helps!'"
Yeah, fair point WQ. I'm knackered.
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| Quote Dan Stains woz God="Dan Stains woz God"I don't get this anger towards BM....'"
He is a nice fella.....he's just not a SL standard coach. The "anger" is no directed at him persay, more at those who defend his record whilst head coach of Harlequins Rugby League....he wasn't good enough then and he isn't good enough now.
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| It may only be 7am, but yes I agree with Gutterfax! for me BM is more someone for working on fitness, Never a Super League coach & never will be, like RP Brian was given too long with us and it is beyond me how Leeds ever went with him when you look at coaches they have had in Super League.
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| Yes very strange choice. One of these British head coaches who got a reputation as a future great head coach on the basis of nothing.
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| The main problem with Mac is in his acquisition and retention of players.
I can't think of an overseas signing he has ever made who has been a true stand out player in Super League.
He seems to always sign hard working tacklers rather than anyone with star quality.
His other problem is that he takes no account of age, injury record, decline in form or factors like average age of the side etc. Also he won't evaluate what other offer a player might get.
He will thus dole out four and five year contracts willy nilly but without any offence does he really expect Sinfield to be at the top of his game at 34? And is Brett Delaney worth a five year deal?
At Quins he was offering new deals to guys whose appearance record and performances suggested severe decline of which several had to be paid off early.
He tends to give youth a run but will quickly discard players, just think how many different players came to us from Leeds and Bradford but got hardly any chance, just a few games. Several signings didn't get a single game!
As sure as eggs are eggs you will be left with an ageing squad on relatively long term contracts with Mac. He will have the odd good run of about 4-5 wins in a row but the majority of the time he will lose more than he wins.
When he has money he will be more likely to end up with a Robinson, Williamson or journeyman from someone like Crusaders or Wakey than a Puletua or Carmont.
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| Mark that description of BM sounds similar to Big Sam at West Ham, he is exactly the same, even if he got us promoted.
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| Hi JayBs, I would suggest that Big Sam has an amazing knack of finding talent at relatively cheap prices.
Consider the free transfers of Jay-Jay Okocha, Youri Djorkaeff, Stelios Giannakopoulos, Bruno N'Gotty, Kevin Davies and Ivan Campo whilst he got exceptional performances from the likes of Gary Speed and El Hadji Diouf at bargain fees.
He also brought in unknowns from obscure leagues such as Tal Ben Haim and Ali Al Habsi plus found inexpensive players like Abdoulaye Faye and Florent Laville to bolster his team. Not everyone he signed was immediately successful but he signed a young Jonathan Walters and Ricardo Vaz Te. He would look anywhere for talent.
If you consider that he signed Michael Ricketts for £400k and got him into the England team plus got performances from the likes of Nicky Hunt and other journeymen you'd have to say he was one of the great managers. Four consecutive top eight finishes from Bolton is an unbelievable feat.
Brian McDermott has only discovered one promising player in his career and that is Luke Gale.
He promoted a few players into the first team squad at Quins but it is a short list as many were already signed by Tony Rea and in the squad prior to his arrival e.g. Louie, Tony Clubb, Will Sharp etc.
In fact most of the Academy players from his era are at London Skolars; the many youngsters signed from Yorkshire are without exception playing in the National Leagues and his overseas signings are pretty much all retired as they were on their last legs when they joined us.
So I would say you have one guy who trawls around for talent and one guy who doesn't. One who will sign a player with hundreds of games of wear and tear in a punishing sport and one who gives youth a genuine chance.
Funnily enough many of the Tony Rea overseas signings are still here - but where is Mac's legacy?
There is probably only David Howell, who is believed to be on a six figure contract and who is perenially injured and the decent Chris Melling still here.
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