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| When Kaufusi is allowed to traipse around putting in one or two decent runs per game.
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| When they can't be d to promote the games (ironically this game has seen a little effort)
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| When the CEO is allowed to treat the fans with contempt
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Who said we have a culture of acceptable failure?'"
I do....along with a fair few others who frequent these boards...
Quote: Rooster Booster "You and your impression of events of course.'"
I don't do impressions......but if I did, they'd probably be Carlsberg!
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| Quote: gutterfax "I do....along with a fair few others who frequent these boards...'"
To suggest a professional sporting club has a "culture of acceptable failure" is utter nonsense.
Because we are crap in various areas, does not mean we have such a culture. It's another one of your out and out statements that's eminated from your frontal lobes, which sits comfortably for you, yet none of us really knows what goes on or is going on behind the scenes.
For example I can't imagine for a moment that people like Tony Rea has a culture where is is happy that we're getting smashed or he'd be viewed as a failure, nor an owner that leaves at half time, not even a professional cricketer who has played for their country.
Being able to and having the ability to turn things around at our club is completely different from thinking we have a culture where failure is acceptable.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "To suggest a professional sporting club has a "culture of acceptable failure" is utter nonsense.
Because we are crap in various areas, does not mean we have such a culture. It's another one of your out and out statements that's eminated from your frontal lobes, which sits comfortably for you, yet none of us really knows what goes on or is going on behind the scenes.
For example I can't imagine for a moment that people like Tony Rea has a culture where is is happy that we're getting smashed or he'd be viewed as a failure, nor an owner that leaves at half time, not even a professional cricketer who has played for their country.
Being able to and having the ability to turn things around at our club is completely different from thinking we have a culture where failure is acceptable.'"
I actually go and watch the games and I would say there is a culture of failure. Obviously that is not by design and to some it may not be acceptable. But there is no obvious action from the top to do anything about it. You only had to watch last weeks game. No obvious plan, basic mistakes, indiscipline. From certain players it looks like a lack of effort in many games. As a club we have been distracted by problems of our own making such as finding a new ground which gives an excuse for minimal effort to attract fans to the current location.
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Quote: Rooster Booster "...not even a professional cricketer who has played for their country.
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You need to watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae-HziERgfk before you say anything else
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Quote: Rooster Booster "...not even a professional cricketer who has played for their country.
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You need to watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae-HziERgfk before you say anything else
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| Quote: jbuzza "You need to watch this
The bloke is a total fail.
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| Culture of "acceptable" failure?
It's a shame we are not Parra. We could afford to give some of the crap that wear the jersey we follow and above the them the flick
It's such a shame that people hone in on what GF impression is and think of it as the reason. When it's more like poor choices. Lack of money. And be out of ones depth. Rather than labellimg an entire sporting club having an ENTIRE cultre
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Being able to and having the ability to turn things around at our club is completely different from thinking we have a culture where failure is acceptable.'"
I agree that we may not have the ability to turn things around, technically we're just not good enough on the pitch or off the pitch (which is why any calls to show passion and heart are meaningless), but we don't even seem to be trying to put ourselves in a position where we may get that ability. Our recruitment has been poor for several years, promotion of the club is non-existent, there's a clear lack of leadership (and it's not just the fans who think this, it's the players too if we believe Gower and Clubb). On and off the pitch we've been sliding for several years with no sign of how we pull out of this.
I'm really not sure if we will be around next season, and if we are what's the point unless we can turnover at least half the squad for better players (a saving grace is that I suspect some of our most mediocre players are actually on bigger salaries if we can get rid of them e.g. the likes of Randall, Witt, Bryant, Kafusi, and Howell. Right now I'd kill for a McLinden, a Hopkins, a Tookey, a Millard, a Retchless, a Gill, players who brought something to the game.
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| The squad are underachieving. The culture of any organisation has a significant bearing on its results. The culture and expected results for an organisation are set at the top. When performance falls short, successful organisations will tend to have a culture that identifies the reasons and plans action to make improvements. They will become very focused. Failing organisations will tend to lower expectations, make excuses, distract themselves with self pity and actions that are nothing to do with the reasons for failure. London Broncos show all the signs of being a miserably failing organisation and that is in no small part a reflection of its culture.
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| Quote: Kelvin's Ferret " Right now I'd kill for a McLinden, a Hopkins, a Tookey, a Millard, a Retchless, a Gill, players who brought something to the game.'"
These were winners not losers.
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| Quote: jbuzza "The squad are underachieving. The culture of any organisation has a significant bearing on its results. The culture and expected results for an organisation are set at the top. When performance falls short, successful organisations will tend to have a culture that identifies the reasons and plans action to make improvements. They will become very focused. Failing organisations will tend to lower expectations, make excuses, distract themselves with self pity and actions that are nothing to do with the reasons for failure. London Broncos show all the signs of being a miserably failing organisation and that is in no small part a reflection of its culture.'"
I work as a trainer at a very successful NRL club in their reserve grade. In the last two seasons we finished bottom whilst the first grade won the premiership. Last year we were second from bottom. This year we are currently third from bottom. Do you think our club has a "culture" of failure?
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "Culture of "acceptable" failure?
It's a shame we are not Parra. We could afford to give some of the crap that wear the jersey we follow and above the them the flick
It's such a shame that people hone in on what GF impression is and think of it as the reason. When it's more like poor choices. Lack of money. And be out of ones depth. Rather than labellimg an entire sporting club having an ENTIRE culture'"
Not sure why you are continuing with this 1 man crusade against my statement, especially after my identifying a culture of acceptable failure has been backed up by people who have been to games, witnessed the absolute destruction of anything like a club spirit and the total neglect of the fans, their opinions or.....and this is the worst bit in my opinion, their LOYALTY.
We have heard tales of fans who in the past have laid everything on the line in support of the club in the past......I suspect you'll be hard pressed to find anyone willing to do the same for the current failing business/sports club.
Other than RL and these boards, I have another "hobby" that I am also in the process of becoming qualified in....that of Business Strategy. I enjoyed my Marketing degree so much I am now backing it up with Degree in Business Studies!
Can I suggest you nip down to your local library and grab a copy of this?
rlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Dysfunctions_of_a_Teamrl
Nobody from the club is ever going to put their hand up and say that a culture of failure exists at London Broncos, but a skipper who wants out because he's sick of losing, his predecessor walked because he was sick of the lack of proper training, a CEO who has delivered nothing of any benefit to the club, a chairman who did the Wigan walk at the weekend and an ever decreasing circle of supporters prepared to attend games point to exactly that.
Poor choices are exactly that.....what makes them failings is the reluctance to admit when you get it wrong....David Hughes doesn't do admission of errors...neither does he accept he ever makes mistakes...his failings filter down to the CEO who continues to steal a wage.....his continued employment even after his changing of the clubs name to increase awareness failed is in turn a sign to the coaching and playing staff that failure is OK.
Lack of Money is a smoke screen. We receive 1.1 million from SKY and about 1.1 million from fans...it is David Hughes decision to allow his poor choice of coach to spend to the cap. A good business that wants to stem the flow of wasted cash "budgets" and assigns cash to areas that will deliver returns.....the club turns over about 4 million a year and makes losses of 1.7 million....it has done so for the last 3 reported set of accounts.....not sure about you, but given the same players are in play(except powell and the fans forced Hughes hand there) I would identify that as a culture of acceptable failure.
Out of ones depthI refer you to the point above about poor choices.
In the real world (come and join us and have a look-see some time) there are rewards and consequences.
The only consequence of the failure of the ENTIRE club over the last 2.63 seasons has been the dismissal of a coach who was a poor choice and 2 staff who were poor choices of the poor choice of a CEO.
The rest of the ENTIRE club has been rewarded with continued employment.....to reward an organisation (and its staff) that in 2.63 seasons has lost 80% of its games, 35% of its fans even after a much trumpeted name change is most assuredly a big off sign that says we REWARD FAILURE.
Another thing that I have learnt as part of my new hobby becoming a potential new revenue stream, is that the most important thing a Business has is the people it employs. If you don't employ A players to key positions in Business, then more often than not, your business will fail......if you employ C players into these key positions, how in christs name do you expect to ever attract A player applicants for future roles?
If Hughes flicked Gus today....do you think an advert for a new CEO would attract A grade candidates? Would it .
Same for Rea....if he was booted today, how many A grade coaches would apply?
Failure has a habit of finding failure.......and the current home of FAILURE in RL is The London Broncos!
BTW.....I once asked Mac at a fans forum pre-season where we would finish and he replied first. When I repeated the question, with a smile and said seriously, where will we finish, he scowled at me and said he'd just told me! We finished 11th, but I can assure you, every single player who ran out that year knew their was a consequence if they failed......I don't believe that this squad believe there is a consequence to them failing.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I work as a trainer at a very successful NRL club in their reserve grade. In the last two seasons we finished bottom whilst the first grade won the premiership. Last year we were second from bottom. This year we are currently third from bottom. Do you think our club has a "culture" of failure?'"
Sort of irrelevant and how would I know from that information ?
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