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A bit harsh on Golden, he must have done a thousand tackles, no wonder he had nothing left in attack.

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Ive woken up still in shock at how poor that was last night-I didn't watch it to the end it was that bad, made worse by Wiggy Hemmings scratching around trying to find positives for us.

We can make excuses for McDermott all we like and I accept we have injuries but this is now his team(possibly under financial constraints but spending more than Cas and Wakey) and we are dire. We are not comfortable with the ball. His whole thinking (my view) is based on defence. I would be embarrassed as a coach if other coaches kept saying Brian's teams will be fit. All SL teams are fit.

We have no desire to attack. Last night we never pushed the ball to the centres. It was one out against one of the most experienced packs in their league.

An earlier poster mentioned poor kicking, what about tackling? There is more to tackling that stopping someone, just look at Hudds they've turned it into a science. We never seem to knock the player back, they always get over us and equally when we hit the contact with the ball we get knocked back.(LMS is useless in both of these contacts-He as a player has gone backwards massively-Even Mac doesn't give him much game time)

Something has to change-What that is I dont know but the reality is we are a very poor side that plays a style that is uneasy on the eye. Q GF(how do you sell.............

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One thing for sure is we are stuck with the team and I agree with comments that we are going nowhere and even backwards. A new coach is required NOW, somebody who can shake up the current crop of players, try new ideas and kick a few backsides. Mac has gone as far as he can, one win is six months is a very poor record by any standards, no more excuses a head has to roll. a026.gif

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It will be intersting to see if Walters goes this week-Im not suggesting we get him!! more a barometer of ambition between the clubs.

Do coaches get performance managed like other employees in business and therefore if they under perform you dont sack them you manage them out at no cost. It seems in sport if you get rid of a coach you have to pay him of.

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Isn't there a character in the wizard of Oz - all heart and no brains?
It will be a long season bearing a miracle, a diet of crumbs and heroic (and some not so heroic) defeats. We may get a few home wins courtesy of Salford etc but I can't see many on the road, we were lucky to get one last night. Thanks god for Kevin Walters!

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There are too many average players in the team. You have to have some to balance the salary cap but the rest have to be quality players in key positions who are smart and skillfull or gamebreaking props etc. the balance is all wrong and is why we look comletely devoid of ideas or impact

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the plus side was that they kept going to the end - the minus was just about everything else. It's not just LMS who's going backwards, it appears to be everyone else - Hull had a nice quiet day at the office. Can we PLEASE fire BM? And this from someone who's by and large not a believer in getting rid of coaches in season!

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Quote: Snoopy "There are too many average players in the team. You have to have some to balance the salary cap but the rest have to be quality players in key positions who are smart and skillfull or gamebreaking props etc. the balance is all wrong and is why we look comletely devoid of ideas or impact'"


We had that problem for a couple of seasons , Too many players who were just stocking fillers and nothing more .But credit to the club and coach ,binned 9 player's from last season and signed quality over quantity and so far , There's been a massive difference in style from last season. Like you say ,Quins need to add quality players to play along side the good players you already have down there.

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "the plus side was that they kept going to the end - the minus was just about everything else. It's not just LMS who's going backwards, it appears to be everyone else - Hull had a nice quiet day at the office. Can we PLEASE fire BM? And this from someone who's by and large not a believer in getting rid of coaches in season!'"
It seems hard work is the only things BMcD expects or understands. It is one thing us having youngsters coming through but do we think BMcD will actually develop them. From the evidence of Louie and Clubby he seems more likey to arrest their development. Wish he would do the decent thing and resign.
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Quote: "As long as the effort is there and as long as we don't implode, we will get some momentum.
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What constitutes imploding?

He is grasping at straws with the BB comment- he would never have got a look in if we didn't have so many injuries

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Quote: wire-quin "What constitutes imploding?'"


Not sure what it means but can only guess it is a reference to the second half of last season.

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Quote: nadera78 "LMS and Clubb have talent, no doubt about that, but they are still doing the same things (and making the same mistakes) as they were two years ago.'"


I hear what people are saying about our coach, but be fair, to say they are making the same mistakes really is nothing to do with the coach but the players themselves. They're not coached to make mistakes.

Quote: nadera78 "Look around any NRL reserve grade and you'll find a couple of polynesian prop forwards who do nothing but bash and crash their way through a game, and they'd cost peanuts'"


Not too sure about that one. Not good enough for SL anyway.

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Quote: wire-quin "It was one out against one of the most experienced packs in their league.'"


Do you really believe that any coach at any level is not asking for any push? I'd have had atleast 2 walkie-talkies bouncing off my head before half-time if that was the case. eusa_liar.gif

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Quote: Rooster Booster "I hear what people are saying about our coach, but be fair, to say they are making the same mistakes really is nothing to do with the coach but the players themselves. They're not coached to make mistakes.

Not too sure about that one. Not good enough for SL anyway.'"


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