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| Without knowing the applicants, it may be that TR was the best qualified.
He's alsoe worked in Super 14 for t three years, and I can't imagine he didn't learn from that.
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| Exactly, Kit.
He's work with the Brumbies may have given him another strand to his coaching bow too.
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| As a sports fan in any sport you have to be realistic, not everyone can be a winner! but you can be competative! Winning the grand final or Challenge cup for us and several other clubs eg salford, wakey, widnes, KR etc is highley unlikely at this moment in time
Being competative making the play offs or semi finals is realistically what our aims should be
The facts are we have a heavily weighted top end comp, with Saints/Leeds/Wigan dominant however it does change over time loom at Bradford and wire one on the up the other on the down.
We have a playing squad that could and should have made the top eight, why didnt we? well there were obviously massive problems in the camp and yep even i have to say now that was probably down to rifts between the coach and senior players.
What does TR bring to the club and why have we suddenly started winning? skills NO, fitness? no tactics? maybe! or is it an attitude change!
Are there better coaches out there? without a doubt, problem is they have to want the job, with TR he has the skills both in coaching and man management, and despite his initial comments that its only for a short period he actually wants to be here.
Dan has it right! we all said Brian Mac was a rubbish coach! and look where he is gonna be sat on Sat!
Did Powell not get SL coach of the month in his first month in charge? we all thought he walked on water
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| Also one journalist was indicating that Bobbie Goulding was in the running? as bad as the Kent story!'" ]
Bobby was at the game on Friday...bet that's where that "story" came from
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| Quote: dredgie "Also one journalist was indicating that Bobbie Goulding was in the running? as bad as the Kent story!
Bobby was at the game on Friday...bet that's where that "story" came from'"
He was indeed, he was there watching his son play in the U20's match
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| I also remember Bobby Goulding say that London was an 'Aussie' club, classic.
The best thing about TRII so far has been the style, like nothing we have seen since the days of the golden triangle. I can't wait to see Sargy playing in such a way!
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| Quote: The Daddy "Could you please answer my question, What has Tony Rea achieved as a rugby league coach? It's a simple question.'"
I was only stating that I feel at present Tony is best person for the job, we do not know all the applicants, such a Noble was highlighted as possible but I'm unsure if we would cut it now, his record with the Crusaders was not the best, look at how successful Monie was with Wigan!
If the players are working well with Tony Rea it makes common sense to give him the chance now to bring some stability to the club to try and build on, there are many coaches who have not achieved anything when they get posts, it is a case of working with the players you have.
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| Quote: The Daddy "What the club really needed was to completely change the culture from a losing one, in my opinion Tony helped to create that culture.
Nothing that I saw before tells me that we won't be sitting here in a year or two years talking about chronic underachievement and wanting to get rid of the coach.
Lets not forget that when Brian Mcdermott came in he brought a lot of new initiatives to the club which wasn't there when Tony was coach, including training methods and youth programs, the football side of things wasn't brilliant and people on here are deluding themselves saying that Tony will bring back the good old days......what good old days?
When was this golden age that we had under Rea.......this is just a symptom of David Hughes knee jerk culture which he's created at London Broncos.......Epic Fail!!
When you change the culture of a club you have to do it in a radical way without sentiment, look at how ruthless Ian Lenaghan was with Brian Noble, in the end it was the right decision because look how Michael Mcguire completely changed everything there,that was the type of change we needed.....radical change, now I fear we've missed the boat just because we won a few games after a new coaching appointment which is normal.
Bad, bad decision.......as Marlon Brando said, 'We could've been a contender''"
So who would you have appointed then?
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| Quote: rob13 "So who would you have appointed then?
We will now be in Fantasy RL manager world, where money is no object, every coach in the world is wanting to up sticks, dump their club and come to London, and all were on the short list that DH reviewed.
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| We have very few players out of contract so there won't be too many changes to the squad. Tony has proven that he can get this squad playing well so I certainly have no issues with the appointment.
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| We have 4/5 slots for next season so there is room to strengthen depending on finances.
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| Tony Rea took the team to the play-offs twice with 5th in 2003 above the likes of Warrington and Hull and 6th in 2005 above Wigan making the play-offs twice in three years.
His full record from 2001 to 2006 is 6th, 8th, 5th, 10th, 6th and 7th,
He brought through Joe Mbu, Tony Clubb, Mike Worrincy and Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook in 2006 whilst Will Sharp was also his discovery. He had Lamont Bryan training with the first team as a 16 year old. The crop of players which followed these were nowhere near as good without Tony's guidance.
He brought players to the club like Thomas Leuluai, Mark McLinden, Dennis Moran, Rob Purdham, Lee Hopkins and Luke Dorn plus many other durable players who have been the backbone of our squad over the past decade.
Some seasons he had a 50% win record and I'm sure his total win record is 40-50% which is superb for the smallest Super League club and which generally has not spent anywhere near the final salary cap.
He is an ambassador for London and well liked by the media raising the clubs profile.
In 2006 he had only £900k to spend on salary and we had a bad run. But that is a lot different to a badly run club. I don't know who got have won games with the likes of Pat Weisner as a starter!
McDermott, Powell and Tawhai were proven bad managers.
In various permutations they got more wrong than right taking us from 9th to 9th again to 11th, 13th, then bottom over five years. Both McDermott and Powell won less than 1 in 5 games over their last 40 games in tandem and as individuals. And they both lost their best British players.
They were very bad at talent acquisition with the likes of Chad Robinson, Luke Williamson, Nick Kouparitsas, Jarrad Hickey, Shane Rodney and David Howell being signed from the overseas markets on big money; bad at retention with one last deal for injury prone players and as for UK talent there is hardly anyone still at the club from either the North West or Yorkshire.
We have no right to expect to finish above clubs with 15,000-20,000 supporters, making cash signings and who have a full suite of internationals and will pay shares of the gate for cup final games as a bonus.
What success is for the Broncos is to achieve a 40%+ win record with the club winning half its home games and a stronger playing base year on year and to be in with a shout of the playoffs near the end of the season.
I believe Tony can get near to that, next year he has almost no turnover of senior players - a sprinkle of youngsters leaving plus maybe Big Karl and Goldy - so I'm expecting to miss out on the play-offs for sure but in 2014 I'm confident we will be a stronger side and competitive with the likes of Hull KR, Huddersfield and Catalans all of whom were much weaker than us when Tony left.
He was only sacked because Ian Lenagan had grand ambitions which were nearly all wrong. Welcome home Tony.
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| Quote: poplar panther "We have 4/5 slots for next season so there is room to strengthen depending on finances.'"
I didn't think it was that many, my mistake. We have that Widnes guy who's been in Aus coming in so he takes up one spot.
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| Yes we have Hickey's spot, plus Big Karl, Jason Golden, who I think will go plus maybe Lamont Bryan and Rob Thomas if we are foolish enough to release them. Also Omari Caro if he defects to St Helens as I am told has happened.
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| Quote: markrammond "He was only sacked because Ian Lenagan had grand ambitions which were nearly all wrong.'"
Sorry mate, but I have to disagree......if wheelan hadn't spat his RL dummy out, Lenegan would have taken this club forward. He is a businessman who has built up his empire from the 80"...he started workplace by flogging his BMW to get capital.....he knows and understands risks and risk management....David Hughes buys and Sells a product he doesn't ever see, employs no "teams" in R&D/Sales/Customer Services etc......Ian Lenegan would have made this club a success.
The day he became aware Wigan was up for grabs was the start of the decline that sees us where we are now and it is very unfair of anyone to blame IL for the situation we find ourselves in at present....I'd be more inclined to blame the RFL and David Hughes, who has employed a series of people who were/are not up to the task.
As for the OP......8% of SL coaches tat have tried to win SL have done so......about 188 out of 204 have won SFA......Tony Rea may not be the answer, but he'll do for the next 2 years and steady the ship at worst.
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