Is not having the money the same in your eyes as not having the interest?

That's a different issue.

Are you opposed to a fan owned club in principle?

A fans owned club would be ideal, and a great idea, but at the moment its light years away as we hvent got any fans! £1500 a year is not the way forward, even if some could afford it? What DH could do is buy into a ground, even Ealing if its possible for 30 or so years (i think that was something discussed at the Hive). He could then walk away (name the ground after him or have a suite named after him, make him Life President - something Gutterfax/Molly/Jim etc suggested)and not put any more money in and the fans could form a company to run the Club from a base. The club could grow from the bottom-up, whether in the Championship or a lower tier, i would'nt care and i would support and be prepared to put up some money. we could then put into action a proper marketing plan, and i for one would be happy to listen to Gutterfax/Molly/Jim ideas and offer him the job if we could do a deal. That is the only way forward in my view, but whether DH would be willing to go down this route is open to question?

There are lots of examples of this working, although all the examples i am aware of are with clubs with much larger fan bases? Portsmouth, where i currently live, is one of the best and most recent example, but the key is they own their ground, as do Wimbledon and FC Manchester (i think).

So as ever a ground, a base, roots is the key - without this we will be permanent nomads and in permanant decline, though not sure how much more we can decline.....................

Perry, why are you letting this clown get under your skin ? You are better than that. He proved hundreds of posts ago he has nothing to offer in the way of meaningful discussion.

What makes you think I am? I'm just seeing what lengths he'll go to to avoid answering a question.

No I am not. And I defy you to find any post I've made saying otherwise.

But you can't write off funding as "a different issue", it is integral to the concept.
You are the one who calls fans "apologists" for not supporting a fan owned colective.
You are the one saying supporting a fan owned collective will cost £1500 a year per person.

Three times I have asked you address the fact that a lot of people won't have that kind of disposable income, and three times you have avoided the question.

Four times I have asked you if you are making that level of financial contribution at your new club, and four times you have avoided answering the question.

I've answered your question, time for you to answer mine.

Obviously not everyone can afford to stump up 1,500 quid a year so any fan owned club would have different levels of membership.

This is all hypothetical anyway as there obviously isn't any interest in the concept.

Least wise not till the next time David Hughes throws his toys out the pram.

How do you know there isnt any interest ? I'd be willing to throw in a decent wedge so if you can scope out the details and get commitment from others then its on its way.

I was using this place as a straw poll.

By calling people "apologists"?

A straw poll would rely on you starting with a question rather than name calling.

You still haven't addressed your level of commitment at your new club.

And this is primarily because of DH's mismanagement. You might think there no club without DH but history would suggest there isn't much of one with him.

These days I devote my time and support to Maidstone United. Here's what one of our owners had to say about fan ownership, which is spot on to me, if anyone can be bothered reading. maidstoneunited.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... e.html?m=1

These days I devote my time and support to Maidstone United. Here's what one of our owners had to say about fan ownership, which is spot on to me, if anyone can be bothered reading. maidstoneunited.blogspot.co.uk/2 ... e.html?m=1

Sometimes it is worth remembering how rapid the descent of the club has been under the present stewardship . In this week's League Express there is a piece on retiring players including Chris Bailey. He joined the club less than five years ago when it was still Quins RL. In his first game at Millennium Magic we beat Catalans 11-4. I was at that game and I don't think at that time in my wildest nightmares I could have imagined the club being in the position it is in now

Indeed, and while that wasn't a great season finishing 12th in SL we had an average gate of 3,131. Here we are now having lost 80% of even that poor crowd and averaging just 634.

Buzza I assume u are one of those 634