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Quote: "Wire Quinn I don't agree, that's what we ended up doing at the stoop playing there and training elsewhere, it does not really work.'"


It works for the largest and best Rugby league teams globally why not London?

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Err because it's going back to where we were! For the first time in a long time we have a club feeling about us.

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Personally id rather decline promotion and stay in the champs than move stadium, spend big on rent and get relegated and go bust again. 3000 capacity is big enough and the facility's great, the rfl would be mad to force us to move for a few thousand empty seats. It hasnt done hudds or salford any good. Lets be honest about where the club and the sport is in this country. Its ok to have smaller clubs and bigger clubs.

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Tre, I think it's an acceptance by the sport as a whole that apart from one or two clubs the big stadiums are not needed, the Wakefield situation is ludicrous, they are being forced to move for the wrong reason, nothing to do with the stadium facilities but because they cannot seat 5000
Look at realistic crowds we could get if we went up! What has been our biggest crowd in recent history? Think I remember circa 8k against Bradford the first time at the stoop. In the last say 10 years what has been our best crowd.
At the moment why do Salford need a 10k stadium? Are they ever going to hit those numbers, fit for purpose rather than capacity should be the focus.
At mo though trailfinders would struggle on that front.

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Quote: Tre Cool "Personally id rather decline promotion and stay in the champs than move stadium, spend big on rent and get relegated and go bust again. 3000 capacity is big enough and the facility's great, the rfl would be mad to force us to move for a few thousand empty seats. It hasnt done hudds or salford any good. Lets be honest about where the club and the sport is in this country. Its ok to have smaller clubs and bigger clubs.'"



Decline promotion?
Seriously?

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They mabey a deal to be done with trailfinders if promoted spending the extra sky money on the ealing ground to bring it nearer sl code. I know trailfindes said if they had won promotion last season they would have declined it. That mite gives us a chance to move into more of a partnership with ealing though I may be dreaming here.
But keeping ealing for the academy lads and renting a ground sl dosnt make any financial sense

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It was a discussion we had when we first moved to Ealing about if they could get the ground developed at all and objections from the locals.
I have friends living in Ealing who have links with the club, they seem to think, temporary stands are an option, not sure about anything permanent, the ownership of the ground does complicate things as well as the local residents, the car parking and access causes concern as well, I know it's improved but when Leeds came down last year there were some major problems caused by on street parking and Broncos had to do some serious work to 're build bridges with the locals

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Ealing themselves must have had parking problems for the big games. It is not beyond the wit of man for the council to make it residents only parking on match days and police it as such. Better communication of the local transport infrastructure, buses and tubes as well as National rail could also be part of the solution.

Declining promotion could have been an option if the RFL could be trusted not to move the goal posts on a whim of the loud chairmen. We would not survive a return to the franchise system, what with our current low crowd numbers and Toronto and the other potential newbies we will be screwed.

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RFL are the reason the game is being killed off. Why force teams to have grounds they cannot fill or expenses they cannot afford. As long as the grounds pass stringent health and safety test and are truly safe for all does it matter how many it holds as long as you can get all your fans in and a bit of room for expansion. Money better spent elsewhere than on 70% empty stadium. Why do the idiots as the top feel they are worth their considerable weight in cash whilst making such bad, expensive, illogical decisions. There needs to be some common sense applied. Scenario - You go up to SL so your ground must be this that and the other. Money is spent on the ground - nothing left over for players. You are in debt as a club and back down next year because you couldn't invest in better players - who will pay the debt when fans stop coming because of stupid RFL rules

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Well said, I agree with all that you say regarding the RFL.

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Couple of discussion points here. The Leeds game parking issue, happened you cannot undo that so it's an arguememt that the residents would use irrelevant of what you could do in the future, possibly not helped by the advice given to some on here to travelling fans about parking.
The RFL are a bit stuck between a rock and a hard place. We all want our sport to expand and to become bigger nationally than what it is.
Problem we have is the top clubs draw pretty decent crowds so have to ensure there facilities can cope, how do you defferenciate between other clubs in the same league who potentially could end up and should be drawing the same crowds.
I think fit for purpose is actually mote important than capacity, you just make those with smaller stadiums all ticket if required. Where the RFL should be focusing is the old run down stadiums, why did football have to change? Because of tragedy, Bradford, Hillsboro, that's the main risk in my view for the likes of cas and wakey
So the RFL are doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons

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thats what I said

As long as the grounds pass stringent health and safety test and are truly safe for all does it matter how many it holds as long as you can get all your fans in and a bit of room for expansion

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The problem faced by the RFL trying to be the regulators how do you deal with a problem like ours? Where do they set the bar.
In reality trailfinders at the moment "could" possibly cope with say 2000 as it stands, H&S wise it would be ok apart from maybe restricted movement in front of the main stand and amount of toilets available.
We have had crowds much bigger than that, all be it many years ago, so what do you do in our case?
Is insisting on a 10k capacity with 5k seating realistic, maybe not but you have to set the bar somewhere, maybe 5k capacity, but at the moment we could not even do that.
The RFL are doing what they think is best for the sport in my mind, is it actually for the best? Well that's a moot point, the fact Dewsbury could be a temp ground for wakey seems crazy to me, but is that the RFL fault, all those years ago when the club house was built at wakey why did they not spend the money re building that stand, I don't think all the blame is on the sports governing body

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Need to apply for a dispenstaion to the RFL by the end of this month if you/RFL think your grounds fall short of Super League standards or you will be deemed to have come at least 6th in the Middle 8s. No top 4 finish, no million pound game regardless of results! RFL has to agree to dispensation by 21 July. (Section A2 of the rules)

Be interesting to know what the RFL and the club have agreed to or not in the next few weeks!

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