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Quote: Chris Brown "
Why is it up to the fans ?'"


I am absolutely stunned that nobody else thinks this and people are actually supporting this idea. I've already wasted enough money on a season ticket, why should I as a customer give the business money because the idiots in charge can't manage to generate any themselves? A business is not viable if it is relying on ideas like this. It's absolutely laughable.

I cannot believe the PM exchange I have had with 1 user who cannot seem to grasp this fact. No points for guessing who that is.

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Quote: Dave Lister "I am absolutely stunned that nobody else thinks this and people are actually supporting this idea. I've already wasted enough money on a season ticket, why should I as a customer give the business money because the idiots in charge can't manage to generate any themselves? A business is not viable if it is relying on ideas like this. It's absolutely laughable.

I cannot believe the PM exchange I have had with 1 user who cannot seem to grasp this fact. No points for guessing who that is.'"


I think everyone else ignored the PM!

If the club said that they would be open to a supporters trust investing (key word that) in the club then that would be something worth discussing. But blindly handing over £150 quid a year to the people currently running the club and having no say over how it is spent or how the clubs is run? That's just nonsense.

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Quote: nadera78 "I think everyone else ignored the PM!

If the club said that they would be open to a supporters trust investing (key word that) in the club then that would be something worth discussing. But blindly handing over £150 quid a year to the people currently running the club and having no say over how it is spent or how the clubs is run? That's just nonsense.'"


Quite. An investment would be a different proposition but then investing £150 wouldn't get you much, and rightly so. I can't imagine attracting 5 figures of "investments", yet alone anything significant, even with the tiniest ownership incentives.

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I consider that via a Squad Builder fund - and the attendent conditions attached - the QRL supporters will be able - at last - to have a real say in the running of the QRL club. It might also be the only way we can be even certain of retaining our franchise.

I think that the Directors are either unwilling or, perhaps, worse unable to provide the extra funding needed to ensure that QRL operate fully to their salary cap. Further the poor level of attendance & low table position - in the seasons since we moved to The Stoop - does not make the Club attractive to new Directors or major investors coming aboard.

As for the Supporters Trust suggestion regret to say that seemingly died because of lack of either understanding of the 'concept' or poor follow up etc by the supporter fan base. I for one was never contacted by the RL 'organiser' from the Trust after expressing interest. Hence seeing the urgent need for a stronger squad and funds for same floated the 'investor/squadbuilder' idea thinking that might be a better way of of 'floating' the Supporters Trust concept and so ensuring at least one or even two board representations for the long suffering QRL fans.

However, must say the the excuses and negative attitude coupled to the crass stupidty among the majority of views expressed leads me to doubt if any fund raising concept would be supported by the so called 'fans' of QRL. It seems that they really are not interested in investing or seeing the Club progress, rather they want others to pay for this 'cake' they then eat and happy with the poor quality [
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Quote: Dave Lister "Quite. An investment would be a different proposition but then investing £150 wouldn't get you much, and rightly so. I can't imagine attracting 5 figures of "investments", yet alone anything significant, even with the tiniest ownership incentives.'"


I don't know, £150 would probably buyt a fair slice of the club. A business can only be valued by its assets and in all honesty there isn't any of them !! The clubs only asset is the goodwill of its fans

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Quote: Chris Brown "I don't know, £150 would probably buyt a fair slice of the club. A business can only be valued by its assets and in all honesty there isn't any of them !! The clubs only asset is the goodwill of its fans'"


You could inherit some chunky debts too.

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As QRL is a private limited company with all the attendent loopholes and possible blackholes including IL's shareholding am of the view this is the real major stumbling block for any major investor.

In light of this am asking my accountant to suggest practical methodologies and terms either for a QRL 'Squad Builder' Direct Invest Package or for a Fans Investment Trust. It will be then up to the lot of you to either run with the concept or see your current QRL operation fail.

Then you can all make your way via Wood Green to the 'other' London RL club to get your fortnightly 'dose' of our great game. high-five.gif eusa_boohoo.gif eusa_clap.gif icon_biggrin.gifANCE: icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: stormingbronco "As QRL is a private limited company with all the attendent loopholes and possible blackholes including IL's shareholding am of the view this is the real major stumbling block for any major investor.

In light of this am asking my accountant to suggest practical methodologies and terms either for a QRL 'Squad Builder' Direct Invest Package or for a Fans Investment Trust. It will be then up to the lot of you to either run with the concept or see your current QRL operation fail.

Then you can all make your way via Wood Green to the 'other' London RL club to get your fortnightly 'dose' of our great game.
you've got far too much time on your hands.

i love it, we either donate our hard earned to this fail of an idea or the club folds according to you icon_lol.gif

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Not everyone has the money to donate, this doesn't mean we are not true fans or fans that couldn't care less. Of course we all care, it's why we put ourselves through this week on week and buy our season tickets. We are not all cash rich exiles living here and there to avoid paying tax in this country. Also why would anyone want to put more hard earned cash into a club with a coach who doesn't know one end from the other. You can buy all the top players you want but without a coach who knows what he is doing nothing will change it would be a case of throwing good money after bad.

ps Stomingbronco why did you buy the cheapest seat possible a couple of games ago when you were at the stoop if you think money is the answer you should have gone to the gold seats.

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Organisations that innovate sometimes fail and sometimes succeed. Ruling out what may seem odd ideas could suggest failure is round the corner and is based on making no changes or taking risks. Although one thing is for sure, QRL needs help both financially and also through practical support to build a strong base and a new direction. It is time to get our heads out of the sand and look at new ideas no matter how mad they may look, who knows what the future holds? Taking cheap shots at each other is unhelpful when I am sure that we all have one thing in common here and that is for QRL to succeed.

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Whilst I applaud anyone who comes up with anything in the way of an idea that "could" help the club, surely there are people at the club who are paid to come up with these ideas?
Hey, what the hell. Put me down for £150 a year if you ever get it off the ground, but to be honest.....on the pitch performances are the least of the clubs problems.
As I said...finish last and the "development" ticket may save us, but finish last with the wost average gate and we'd better pray that Salfords Stadium is all pi55 and wind.

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If you want to put £150 into the club join together with some others and sponsor a player - simples!

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Stormo has sponsored Jon wells

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Quote: gutterfax "As I said...finish last and the "development" ticket may save us, but finish last with the wost average gate and we'd better pray that Salfords Stadium is all pi55 and wind.'"


Salford City Council and Peel Holdings have taken over the stadium development up there and things seem to be getting started. They are jointly paying for the ground and recouping the money from the surrounding developments. Salford RLFC will then be the primary tenants, possibly alongside City or United reserves.

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Quote: nadera78 "Salford City Council and Peel Holdings have taken over the stadium development up there and things seem to be getting started. They are jointly paying for the ground and recouping the money from the surrounding developments. Salford RLFC will then be the primary tenants, possibly alongside City or United reserves.'"


Could anyone on here imagine Richmond Council paying for a stadium and giving us a £350,000 sub? That is the mountain we have to climb, they have a 80 year start on us!

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