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Quote: wire-quin "Why would they do that!!

Im keen to see there remit as a paid into group, who they get access to in the club etc'"


They might do it as a means to increase membership once others see what might be perceived as being a benefit to them in being so. If you don't know what they are talking about, how can you decide if its worth joining or what their interaction with the club is?

The Fulham Supporters Trust is a good example of a fans group engaging with the club. They issue the minutes to their members then tend to post them on the Friends of Fulham message board. After 55 years of watching football, rugby league & union the only Supporters club i joined was QUINSSA & that was to get cheaper tickets for European Cup games. Did get suckered into Struddy's Life Membership fiasco that had a very short life span under the Bartrams. icon_lol.gif

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Why on earth would the SC put the minutes of any meeting on to this forum? There is nothing that makes this forum special, or different from any other chat site. If ypu want to know what they have discussed or got planned then join.

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Quote: northernbloke "Why on earth would the SC put the minutes of any meeting on to this forum? There is nothing that makes this forum special, or different from any other chat site. If ypu want to know what they have discussed or got planned then join.'"


Are you really that dim NB?

Why would you join something just because of the name? Would you buy a new tv & go into Currys to ask for an LG tv without knowing what its capabilities were. Guess you would.

If they want me to sign up they need to show me there's some point in doing so. Putting details of their meeting or plans are a way to do that. Didn't think it was that difficult a concep to grasp. It would seem i was wrong. icon_sad.gif

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NB maybe you can tell us there remit and who in the club they have access to

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Are the lsba meeting minutes published on here? If so can you show me where.
Its a supporters club! Fair few have already signed up for it already, so blowa the curries tv comparison out the window a little bit hasnt it.
You sign up for a season ticket every year not knowing really what yr going to get as well.
Looking forward to seeing the lsba first meeting minutes

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For those that choose to join the SC the list of benefits offered is actually pretty clear on the club web site.
Also the future path to be decided by the committee

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I would join, if I knew what the club had planned for next season. Are we going part time, are we going to actually sign anyone half decent (or anyone at all), Are we moving grounds. A lot of unanswered questions

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Why would the Louisiana State Bar Association put their minutes on this forum ?

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Why does it matter what next season has in store as to whether or not you join the supporters club or are you going to stop supporting if they go part time

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Actually thinking about it surely they must have good plans or why would they start up a supporters club. seems a bit daft to put energy into a start up programme if there is no ambition

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Quote: itsmeagain "Why does it matter what next season has in store as to whether or not you join the supporters club or are you going to stop supporting if they go part time'"


It matters to me. Rightly or wrongly my expectations of the Broncos off the field are pretty low. Is it not reasonable for me to not want to commit to anything until the club can provide more details?? Rumours of part time, players leaving, no incoming news, where will we be even playing?? Am I expected to go to West London or East London next season. In truth, no, ive got no real desire to see a part time Broncos side floating around the championship. I know people will point to Fev, but as it stands they have never made SL (Neither has any other PT side). And if they did, what would happen, suddenly become FT overnight, cause Im pretty sure they would not be allowed PT in SL. Ive said previously my enthusiasm for Broncos and RL in general in waining and pretty low. Some on here will agree, its not easy being a Broncos fan, but yeah what the club has to say about its future could be make or break for me.
I hope it works out with the SC, why wouldnt I, but im not going to just blindly join until the club can provide answers to the direction it is going in

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Quote: Honkytonk "In truth, no, ive got no real desire to see a part time Broncos side floating around the championship. I know people will point to Fev, but as it stands they have never made SL (Neither has any other PT side). And if they did, what would happen, suddenly become FT overnight, cause Im pretty sure they would not be allowed PT in SL. '"


I don't think that's true as Fev were talking about staying part-time, or at least hybrid part time/full time, shortly before the promotion decider against Toronto in 2019.
https://www.totalrl.com/featherstone-ma ... er-league/

That said, I think it's easier for Fev to run a part-time team than it would be for London. Fev can attract the better part-time players with good jobs from around the Northern clubs - a good example is a few years ago when Sheffield went full time and Fev were able to sign players like Anthony Thackeray, who is a director and financial advisor, John Davies, Scott Turner and one or two others who had good jobs that they didn't want to leave.

I think it would be much tougher for London to attract Northern players down south as part timers, and probably more difficult than it already is to keep quality players.
Quote: Honkytonk "In truth, no, ive got no real desire to see a part time Broncos side floating around the championship. I know people will point to Fev, but as it stands they have never made SL (Neither has any other PT side). And if they did, what would happen, suddenly become FT overnight, cause Im pretty sure they would not be allowed PT in SL. '"


I don't think that's true as Fev were talking about staying part-time, or at least hybrid part time/full time, shortly before the promotion decider against Toronto in 2019.
https://www.totalrl.com/featherstone-ma ... er-league/

That said, I think it's easier for Fev to run a part-time team than it would be for London. Fev can attract the better part-time players with good jobs from around the Northern clubs - a good example is a few years ago when Sheffield went full time and Fev were able to sign players like Anthony Thackeray, who is a director and financial advisor, John Davies, Scott Turner and one or two others who had good jobs that they didn't want to leave.

I think it would be much tougher for London to attract Northern players down south as part timers, and probably more difficult than it already is to keep quality players.


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Quote: Honkytonk "It matters to me. Rightly or wrongly my expectations of the Broncos off the field are pretty low. Is it not reasonable for me to not want to commit to anything until the club can provide more details?? Rumours of part time, players leaving, no incoming news, where will we be even playing?? Am I expected to go to West London or East London next season. In truth, no, ive got no real desire to see a part time Broncos side floating around the championship. I know people will point to Fev, but as it stands they have never made SL (Neither has any other PT side). And if they did, what would happen, suddenly become FT overnight, cause Im pretty sure they would not be allowed PT in SL. Ive said previously my enthusiasm for Broncos and RL in general in waining and pretty low. Some on here will agree, its not easy being a Broncos fan, but yeah what the club has to say about its future could be make or break for me.
I hope it works out with the SC, why wouldnt I, but im not going to just blindly join until the club can provide answers to the direction it is going in'"


Can I ask you a question regarding signing players? Can you explain the business sense in signing players to add to the 14 we already have on contracts when we have absolutely no idea when the next season will start, if at all? No idea, not even a clue. And then to compound that even our best guess at when it will start does not guarantee crowds. Before anyone mentions central funding then lets just remember we also have coaching staff, medical staff, office staff, Academy Players and Staff, rent, other regular bills etc. Central funding does not even begin to cover the half of it and the furlough scheme ends soon. So what do we do? Ask David to bank roll a load of new signings? Seems to be the usual response to everything, just ask David to pay, he is good for it.

Anyone signing players at the moment is simply adding to their expenses without any guarantee of income for the next 6 months.

Does this seem like a good way to run a business in order to secure its long term future to you?

If a shop cannot guarantee any customers being allowed in for 6 months minimum and it has half of the shelves empty would you suggest the smart business decision is to spend money you have not got on more stock to sit there doing nothing at great cost to yourself or would you simply wait until you have a definite opening time and then go to the wholesaler and fill your shop?

I do find that the people using this forum have a much better standard of conversation, Broncos fans should take a look, I much prefer reading these guys - https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.ph ... n-shelved/
Quote: Honkytonk "It matters to me. Rightly or wrongly my expectations of the Broncos off the field are pretty low. Is it not reasonable for me to not want to commit to anything until the club can provide more details?? Rumours of part time, players leaving, no incoming news, where will we be even playing?? Am I expected to go to West London or East London next season. In truth, no, ive got no real desire to see a part time Broncos side floating around the championship. I know people will point to Fev, but as it stands they have never made SL (Neither has any other PT side). And if they did, what would happen, suddenly become FT overnight, cause Im pretty sure they would not be allowed PT in SL. Ive said previously my enthusiasm for Broncos and RL in general in waining and pretty low. Some on here will agree, its not easy being a Broncos fan, but yeah what the club has to say about its future could be make or break for me.
I hope it works out with the SC, why wouldnt I, but im not going to just blindly join until the club can provide answers to the direction it is going in'"


Can I ask you a question regarding signing players? Can you explain the business sense in signing players to add to the 14 we already have on contracts when we have absolutely no idea when the next season will start, if at all? No idea, not even a clue. And then to compound that even our best guess at when it will start does not guarantee crowds. Before anyone mentions central funding then lets just remember we also have coaching staff, medical staff, office staff, Academy Players and Staff, rent, other regular bills etc. Central funding does not even begin to cover the half of it and the furlough scheme ends soon. So what do we do? Ask David to bank roll a load of new signings? Seems to be the usual response to everything, just ask David to pay, he is good for it.

Anyone signing players at the moment is simply adding to their expenses without any guarantee of income for the next 6 months.

Does this seem like a good way to run a business in order to secure its long term future to you?

If a shop cannot guarantee any customers being allowed in for 6 months minimum and it has half of the shelves empty would you suggest the smart business decision is to spend money you have not got on more stock to sit there doing nothing at great cost to yourself or would you simply wait until you have a definite opening time and then go to the wholesaler and fill your shop?

I do find that the people using this forum have a much better standard of conversation, Broncos fans should take a look, I much prefer reading these guys - https://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.ph ... n-shelved/


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Quote: MonkeyLover "Can I ask you a question regarding signing players? Can you explain the business sense in signing players to add to the 14 we already have on contracts when we have absolutely no idea when the next season will start, if at all? No idea, not even a clue. And then to compound that even our best guess at when it will start does not guarantee crowds. Before anyone mentions central funding then lets just remember we also have coaching staff, medical staff, office staff, Academy Players and Staff, rent, other regular bills etc. Central funding does not even begin to cover the half of it and the furlough scheme ends soon. So what do we do? Ask David to bank roll a load of new signings? Seems to be the usual response to everything, just ask David to pay, he is good for it.

Anyone signing players at the moment is simply adding to their expenses without any guarantee of income for the next 6 months.

Does this seem like a good way to run a business in order to secure its long term future to you?

If a shop cannot guarantee any customers being allowed in for 6 months minimum and it has half of the shelves empty would you suggest the smart business decision is to spend money you have not got on more stock to sit there doing nothing at great cost to yourself or would you simply wait until you have a definite opening time and then go to the wholesaler and fill your shop?

I do find that the people using this forum have a much better standard of conversation, Broncos fans should take a look, I much prefer reading these guys -
And in the same way would you expect someone to sign up and pay for something without knowing the direction the club intends to go in?? So the club can give no answers (which is fine, if it does not know it does not know) but I will still pay out anyway?. When the club can start to give answers about where it is going, what its future plans are, then maybe I will join. Is that not reasonable??

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Quote: Honkytonk "And in the same way would you expect someone to sign up and pay for something without knowing the direction the club intends to go in?? So the club can give no answers (which is fine, if it does not know it does not know) but I will still pay out anyway?. When the club can start to give answers about where it is going, what its future plans are, then maybe I will join. Is that not reasonable??'"


Absolutely not, which is why we didn't ask people to leave their money in the club against a season ticket for next season, something I was lambasted for and, by one person, called thick. Imagine what I would be getting called now had we offered season tickets and then people find out the season is not starting? We are trying to do the right thing by people.

The SC is a supporters group that has already grown to numbers bigger than I expected in 3 weeks and will, I am sure, update members of the items discussed in the initial meeting. I will be updating everyone who purchased this week on their packages and some additional benefits that have arisen since it was advertised. The committee have had one meeting, a few days ago, and people are already shouting for minutes, websites, social media, constitutions etc. Give them a chance to organise themselves. As I have just said anyone who has joined will receive an update from me soon and then I'm sure one from the committee soon after.

The London Broncos are not going anywhere and the SC is there to assist the club. A very separate issue to the question I posed which was why are people so hell bent on the club signing players when the likelihood is we will not be starting the season during the normal months and some additional costs are coming our way through the next lockdown?

If you want to know more about the SC why don't you email me to discuss, I am very approachable and happy to answer your questions on that or any of the clubs current fundraising efforts.

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