There is plenty of access to the players, Gutters. They are always arouind after the match and anyone can go and talk to them after their meal (they pull the Jesters Bar shutters back when the players have had their meal (and they were in the bars at Leyton and Gillingham).

All that is different these days is that we don't have a players presentation in the Kings Bar.

I agree there could be improvements re how the whole after match stuff works, but we still have more access to our players than any other club.

The only thing that will really improve anything is having a consistently winning side and that is the major thing that is eluding us.

Back to the Legends Lounge, I've not been yet but I've heard good stuff from people I know who have.

Weird thread. So trying to prevent new and casual supporters from being fleeced is a bad thing. I know if I wasted 40 quid on that rubbish I wouldn't be rushing back.

Well most good grounds!!!! offer you a good seat! nice exclusive lounge and fair meal, done it a lot at football and rugby grounds and most times found it worth the extra.

Yet, people who have done it recently indicated that is was a good thing and worth it.

Fleece?

Lister and GF are against it, but those who've used it liked it and found it to be good value.


Mmmmmmm....


Just call me Sherlock, but the evidence suggests people like the offer.

Is it fleecing people, nope. No one has to take up the offer, it's just another choice people make.

I've used the Quins Carvery at £110 and that's a rip off!

If you really want a cheap day at the Stoop, go to the Spoons in Twickenham, have a big breakfast a few pints, then wander to the ground.

I tend to agree with GF on most things, but on this he's gone loco. As for Lister, he's gone potty as well.

Wow, what a perfectly logical argument. If there is someone out there who has paid for something and been happy, there is no way someone can be justified in having an opinion that they have been fleeced.

If some people are mad enough that they think an outlay for 40 quid is worth it for a product that only provides goods and services that are only worth half that then fine. I would love to see how many fans are won over by this wonderful experience and how many of the participants are those who have money to burn.

Sell a package of a cheap seat, wherever you like of course, a pint and a burger for 20 quid and you will get many more takers than this farce of an 'offer'.

Actually Dave, the definition of market price for any sale is a willing seller and willing purchaser coming to an agreement on price which a few seem to have done.

However, you have also come up with a good idea of beer, burger and seat for £20.00. They do the same at Wimbledon Dogs and that's a great deal.

Am I to take you don't like it then?

To summarise. Some people like it, some don't.

Put your idea to the club as clubs have varying packages according to budget. Yours sounds a bit like the ruby one, but workable don't it?

I think the point is being missed here. If you enjoy something it is worth it. If you dont want to do it dont there is a cheaper option as pointed out by Lister. No one is being fleeced, you know what you get when you pay for it, and no Lister not all of us are cash rich but I prefer to put money into the club with hospitality, some prefer replica shirts and others a good beer in the bar. It's horses for courses but because someone doesnt like it, or thinks its expensive doesn,t make it wrong. I hate beer and burgers and unallocated seats but that doesn't make it wrong. If the service is wanted then the club should provide it. At the moment there are options and one of the things the club is getting right. There are major things wrong in the club so however small a part this is lets give credit where credit is due. Personally I would like to see the £10 meal deal being reinstated which was great for home and away fans being reinstated - I think the club were wrong to remove that option

The club have got a number of major things wrong this season and there is a feeling of abject chaos and misery. However the hsopitality is one small thing in the right direction. It is not fleecing people when they know what they are paying for. I am not made of money but I prefer to sit in a comfy seat and eat a meal I haven't had to cook or think about making a meal when I get home. That suits me, that's my choice. Others may well prefer the cheaper option and burgers and beer, that is entirely their decision. Neither is right and neither is wrong it is called choice and that is what is being offered therefore just for once lets give the club a bit of credit. I would also love to see the £10 meal deal reinstated, that was very popular with both home and away fans and extremely good value for money and with three options surely that would be the ultimate choice.

Bring back curry nights