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| Quote Paddock Punter="Paddock Punter"So Nadera - why are diehard fans leaving?'"
Some left because of the tie in with a Union brand and they are no loss.
The average gate for a london RL game since 2000 is 3,607.
The highest average in those 11 seasons was as Harlequins in 2006...the lowest was 3,232 as The Broncos in 2001.
The core support at Harlequins RL has pretty much stayed the same over the 11 years......some have drifted, some have left the country, but true fans never stop supporting their team.
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| I am glad you seem to be getting it sorted out.But there must be some kind of punishment,Is it fair other teams to get points taken away but harlequins rugby league club not to ?.
Many a club including my team widnes, That have nearly gone to the wall have still had points taken away before the season starts?
One more thing now u know you should be safe,Will this ever happen again,If its been going on for several seasons what will change ?
Before u start saying im a troll,i am not, you must see how it looks from all the other clubs perspective.
Good luck friday against our old enemy warrington 
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| Punishment for what !!!!! ..........oh another supposed bail out from the RFL. If anyone should be penalised / punished it should be Ian Lenaghan and Wigan for breaching an agreement with the RFL. The RFL have as I understand it confiscated Lenaghan's shareholding - they have not as far as I am aware bought them or paid us humungous sums of money to keep us afloat
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| Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"I am glad you seem to be getting it sorted out.But there must be some kind of punishment,Is it fair other teams to get points taken away but harlequins rugby league club not to ?.'" .
Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"Many a club including my team widnes, That have nearly gone to the wall have still had points taken away before the season starts?'" ...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"One more thing now u know you should be safe,Will this ever happen again,If its been going on for several seasons what will change ?'" ..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"Before u start saying im a troll,i am not, '" ....why post rubbish then?
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"you must see how it looks from all the other clubs perspective.'" .....the main problem with Rugby League is fans seem to want to point out the supposed failings of other clubs rather than concentrating on their own clubs failings......
....we do not get hand outs, we play in a nice ground, we have the most british team in SL, we are developing the game in the south east at our own expense and we have a minority shareholder who up until Friday who has backed us 100% financially.
These other clubs have issues of their own......Quins will deal with the crowd issue........but as a debt free club who are sticking to the rules as regard development and overseas players I would say Quins are in with a fair chance of getting another 3 years.
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"Good luck friday against our old enemy warrington
'" They will murder us, but I think the good news about 2011 will still mean many a smiling cockney will be found in the bar after the game!
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax".
Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.
...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.
..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone
....why post rubbish then?
.....the main problem with Rugby League is fans seem to want to point out the supposed failings of other clubs rather than concentrating on their own clubs failings......
....we do not get hand outs, we play in a nice ground, we have the most british team in SL, we are developing the game in the south east at our own expense and we have a minority shareholder who up until Friday who has backed us 100% financially.
These other clubs have issues of their own......Quins will deal with the crowd issue........but as a debt free club who are sticking to the rules as regard development and overseas players I would say Quins are in with a fair chance of getting another 3 years.
They will murder us, but I think the good news about 2011 will still mean many a smiling cockney will be found in the bar after the game!'"
Thank you Gutters for putting it much more eloquently than I did 
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax".
Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.
...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.
..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone
....why post rubbish then?
.....the main problem with Rugby League is fans seem to want to point out the supposed failings of other clubs rather than concentrating on their own clubs failings......
....we do not get hand outs, we play in a nice ground, we have the most british team in SL, we are developing the game in the south east at our own expense and we have a minority shareholder who up until Friday who has backed us 100% financially.
These other clubs have issues of their own......Quins will deal with the crowd issue........but as a debt free club who are sticking to the rules as regard development and overseas players I would say Quins are in with a fair chance of getting another 3 years.
They will murder us, but I think the good news about 2011 will still mean many a smiling cockney will be found in the bar after the game!'"
Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.I know you havent had hand outs but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?
Im tipping u to beat warrington friday, for widnes after them winning that cup again 
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| Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.I know you havent had hand outs but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?
Im tipping u to beat warrington friday, for widnes after them winning that cup again
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Where have we lost 7 million pounds ????? link or copy of balance sheet please
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| Quote Fan50="Fan50"Where have we lost 7 million pounds ????? link or copy of balance sheet please'"
I heard it on boots and all, that David Hughes had been pumping money in like there was no tommorow,Up to 7 million out of his own pocket, and business side still wasnt working and he had to pull out.And then i read that the wigans ian lenagan couldent get rid of his shares as the business wasnt making anything but losing.
I will leave it at that then not starting an argument good luck,Sounds to me like every 1 is going over the top about this then.
Im of back to our board as we have, exiting times ahead at widnes now, going good and should be joining u 2012 
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| Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.'"
Wrong again sherlock!
We have a backer who owned 35% of the club was having to cover 100% of the losses. As it is, we have no losses as he has covered them.......operational losses, yes, but name me a SL club who hasn't got a red balance sheet. We have plenty of cash (DH does). What was questioned was why Ian Lenegan was allowed to hold the club to ransom over his investment.
I repeat..no loans, no overdraft....pretty healthy so long as DH is prepared to invest.
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"know you havent had hand outs'" SO DO WE......
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C" but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.'" ....but all our bills are paid, as are the wages.......thank god for DH........kind of like Mr O'connor at Widnes.
Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?'" . No.......no rules have been broken...we have plenty of cash available but the issue of lenegans share holding needed to be sorted...it has been!
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Now I know you are mad! 
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| Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"I heard it on boots and all, that David Hughes had been pumping money in like there was no tommorow,Up to 7 million out of his own pocket, and business side still wasnt working and he had to pull out.And then i read that the wigans ian lenagan couldent get rid of his shares as the business wasnt making anything but losing.
I will leave it at that then not starting an argument good luck,Sounds to me like every 1 is going over the top about this then.
Im of back to our board as we have, exiting times ahead at widnes now, going good and should be joining u 2012
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as b0ll0x goes...this post is up there with the best.
David Hughes has not pulled out....he has managed to get the RFL to sort out IL. DH has invested his own money, but was no longer prepared to invest on IL's behalf as well. IL was living in a dream world if he thought he was going to get a ROI on his investment...and the RFL have told him as much. He gave assurances he would get rid of his quins shareholding, he didn't. As I say, Wigan should be punished
As for going OTT......they say ignorance is bliss, so no wonder you're so happy.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"Wrong again sherlock!
We have a backer who owned 35% of the club was having to cover 100% of the losses. As it is, we have no losses as he has covered them.......operational losses, yes, but name me a SL club who hasn't got a red balance sheet. We have plenty of cash (DH does). What was questioned was why Ian Lenegan was allowed to hold the club to ransom over his investment.
I repeat..no loans, no overdraft....pretty healthy so long as DH is prepared to invest.
SO DO WE......
....but all our bills are paid, as are the wages.......thank god for DH........kind of like Mr O'connor at Widnes.
. No.......no rules have been broken...we have plenty of cash available but the issue of lenegans share holding needed to be sorted...it has been!
Now I know you are mad!
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Fair enough gutter-fax ,Like i said i think every 1 is going overboard with all this, if it is as you say,They need to read the small print before jumping in, bye for now, and yes prob mad thinking u would beat warrington but wishful thinking on my behalf 
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| Quote W.R.L.F.C="W.R.L.F.C"I heard it on boots and all, that David Hughes had been pumping money in like there was no tommorow,Up to 7 million out of his own pocket, and business side still wasnt working and he had to pull out.And then i read that the wigans ian lenagan couldent get rid of his shares as the business wasnt making anything but losing.
I will leave it at that then not starting an argument good luck,Sounds to me like every 1 is going over the top about this then.
Im of back to our board as we have, exiting times ahead at widnes now, going good and should be joining u 2012
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and that is my point.....we have no debt as DH has been our saviour over the years. As Leneghan was the majority shareholder DH's hands were tied. I suggest you should read or listen to things properly and not do what most of the other northern trolls do, twist what you read or hear to suit your own fantasies !!
You've obviously not seen tonights BBC news.......Widnes has been invaded by martians, Salford have just been bought out by the Glazer family, oh and let's not forget that the Queen is pregnant and Steve Ganson is the father.......remember you heard it here first !
Carry on backpedalling to where you need to go............. 
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