We did? How?

Wasn't it the RFL that marketed to the Aussies?

I wish some people at the club were more critical.

I beleive so

Apparently we dont have our own marketing manager (looking at the staff on the website)

Looks like the media guy is green behind the ears too in terms that he hasnt worked in sport before, this looks as if it is a position that should be outsourced to a proffesional sport media/pr company. Guys with real links and leads to the media we need to be targeting.

LISTER

I think you do enough whinging for all the people.
I think you have all those eggs in your own basket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We had a good start as Fulham
When SL came along we got another bump
What were our crowds like first time we where at the Stoop?
Since then we've been the same proposition just that we've moved around far too much and drifted into insignifigance in the public eye.
We got a bounce when we became quins and that has just drifted away since then.

I didn't mean to borrow ideas but to nick their people! Even if they are 'Taffs or Frogs' rather than Cockneys! Obviously someone at these clubs is doing the right things (whatever they may be - I'm not from the sports marketing/admin field so what do I know!). Agree that someone like the guy who organised the Manly game is the sort of person we ought to go for otherwise - I suggested poaching SOMEONE from Catalans 'cos they seem to know what they are doing over there! No matter how hard the QRL staff are trying with no CEO its a bit of a headless chickens scenario! And until someone with some clear ideas of how to market the club/ RL in general to the potential punters down here I can't see that situation changing.

Ummm. Not sure how any of that was/is progress. History yes, not progress. Crowds start high and fall off every time. There was no progress whatsoever at Griffin Park either.

Thats kinda the point.

So where is this progress you speak of? A few decent crowds every now and then?

Making the parrallel (sp) between how we had reasonable crowds during certain periods of our history which is pretty much all Celtic have atm.
Cats have managed to grow their fan base but their crowds are not much better than the first time we were at the Stoop.
So the steps they have made have been pretty similar to our SL early years. We started to suffer once we started to move around.

But that doesn't make him wrong though...

Doesnt make him right either

Didnt say he was!

What have Celtic and Cats(sic) got to do with our lack of progress? Both totally different cases in different countries, the scenarios are completely different.

Our "reasonable" crowds were VERY isolated.

agree.
Was responding to someone saying that if Cats and Celts can do well...

Can I wade in with a pedant's oar and implore people to stop calling the Dragons 'cats' - Catalans, or Dragons, please.

Is it wrong to call Wakefield Wakey then?

No, because thats a nickname their fans use all the time. The above isn't.

Boring facts. SORRY


The Valley :2001: 41,993 Average 3,230
Griffin Park: 2002: 53,245 Average 3,803 +16% on the valley
Griffin Park: 2003: 49,641 Average 3,545 -7% but still 9% up on the valley
Griffin Park: 2004: 48,449 Average 3,460 -3% but still 7% up on the valley
Griffin Park: 2005; 56,047 Average 4,003 +15% and 23% up on the valley
The Stoop: 2006: 60,842 Average 4,345 + 8% on GP and 34% on TV
The Stoop: 2007: 44,596 Average 3,428 - 22% but down 15% on GP, but up 6% on TV
The Stoop: 2008: 50,821 Average 3,909. +14%, but down 3% on GP but up 21% on TV

So, the move from the valley to griffin park, over 4 years saw us increase crowds by 23% and reach the play-offs twice.
The same result is not possible at Quins because we have finished 7/9/9/ and would need an average of 5,344 per game this year to increase our average from GP 2005 by 23%.

In short, we have increase our attendance by 700 fans per game since 2001. That's 100 new regulars a year and will see us hit 5,000 by 2020.

Frogs....simple as


In fact, Cane Toads.....aren't they Australian Frogs

Sad to say found the vast majority of posts regarding the St Mary's shirt sponsorship deal both dull and futile.

So we have a 'deal', for one year I presume, but wonder what this junior sports uni. is bringing to the party 'cashwise', not much would be my view. Still every penny helps.

Which brings me to ask three much more important questions:

1. When are to going to appoint the new CEO?
2. When are we going to recruit a senior excutive with some real marketing & sports promo know how?
3 When are QRL going to 'arrange' a Fans Forum?

Havent got them to hand but when did SL start and what sort of crowds did we pull in then? and what sort of crowds did we get the first time we were at the stoop?

The club then was completely different. A relatively successful team full of Australians as well as stars that even non-RL fans would have heard of. Plenty more curiousity then as well I bet.