FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > London Broncos > Help Needed...can you assist?
57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player656
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



You would have thought that forming an official supporters group would have been run past David Hughes.
Simply, he alienated many fans by allowing it. So David, you reap what you sow.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach577No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47232_1397587565.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47232.png



The original Broncos Official Supporter's Group was chosen on a vote basis, from the first 50 members to sign up, and the voters were from the supporters and no one else.

It was really orientated to try and help fill an activity gap, with supportive activities, perhaps on a match day, to try to help the club.

The club had found prior to that, that it was difficult to get much of a level of co-operation and support.

I'll give my views on the BOSG.

I personally felt that Brian and his Wife made an ideal Chairman and Secretary; they were retired and had previously fulfilled the roles at London Broncos. I wasn't sure they were well known enough at the club. Thus I was supportive of Andy being a co-Chairman as he had stated he would also be retiring from working life and thus be available and I felt that he and Lesley would be a friendly male and female face on a matchday.

The other members of the Group I saw more as offering a specific skill or experience; for instance someone with a financial background could be a treasurer or someone who had fund raising experience could raise funds.

For things to work the Group needed the Chairman, co-Chairman and Secretary to be working regularly in their own time and for the Club to provide a trusted leadership figure with ongoing direction and openness with a deep commitment to the role, and someone who could hear criticism and want to respond to it and better the club.

Within the first few weeks, it turned out that the Chairman and Secretary were not seen as being compatible with the club representatives; the co-Chairman did not retire from working life and committee members would simply drop out. Other people would chime in and claim to have a skill but not move things forward in any way, only to disappear, without even any reasoning, yet feel free to criticise despite their proven negligence and indolence.

There were also people within the group who did have a skill but it could realistically be best placed or only done a matchday.

It was difficult, and I felt by this time last year that the Group could likely only move forward properly if either the BOSG set out a list of issues, or the club set out an overall strategy, and that there was a commitment to move forward on at least one of the two.

If neither happened, then it would be a talking shop only and might even be seen as making the club worse.

It didn't happen; my paper was simply disregarded after point one and a fallacious view given on it being wrong. It was not wrong. The data fully supported my argument and nothing other than an opinion was given.

As time passed, the club began to be seen as somewhere you couldn't discuss things; more about banning and blocking than discussing and the disconnect between club representatives and the supporter base grew, and paranoia grew.

I personally tried to hold the club to account, although not being the lead on things. I put a series of forthright opinions to the club around a suite of different topics as diverse as the AFC Wimbledon move, club lottery, fan engagement, pricing and even a proposal for a different club representative to interact with the BOSG. But as time passed it was clear that no such strategy would ever be shared with the BOSG and that there was little interest in going beyond lip service.

I think over the last 18 months events have not helped, that is for sure, but I hold the senior leadership team at the Broncos to account for their responses.

I do not think the club's media manager should have been furloughed and I do not think he should have been made redundant and I do not think there was anyone capable of replacing him at the club, on even a temporary basis.

I do not think tickets should have been sold at far higher prices for a move that was never going to take place that season and in my opinion the price has doubled for half the quality. I think the price was too low, but you cannot take away everything of value and double the price.

I do not think the existing players, including the club trained players, needed to wait almost the entire season to be told the club was going part time a week or two before the end of the season. This no doubt caused alienation and player departures, well beyond what I think the club had expected.

I think the club could have retained the majority of Walters, Hindmarsh, Sam Davis, Jones, Meadows, Boafo, Hodson and Ogden without the club doing things this way and I also feel that the likes of Fozard, Aston and Sammut were all retainable as I cannot believe anyone has broken the bank to get them.

Anyone who understands the costs of London understands that you would not get players to move to London on little money, unless they were either lower level, locally based or somehow managed to find a high paid job.

I do not think the club trained players still at the club are standouts; this includes the halfbacks who did not set-up tries for excellent players like Hankinson and Miski and are unlikely to do so for lesser players.

I do not think Leyland, Horsman, Blakemore and Oakley would be first team regulars even in the top half of the third division.

The likes of Latu, Macani, Palumbo, the Greenhalgh brothers, Dalton Grant, Thomas, Tuliatu, Coates and Ramsey were unlikely to all be of a Championship standard.

I do not see how Coleman could have been appointed in the first place. He had a win streak at London Skolars in 2017 when the weaker southern based teams were all in the league. 2018 was poor. 2019, he had another win streak, which ended in May 2019. After that he won one game over a year later against Coventry in May 2020. Apart from that Coleman has beaten only West Wales.

Broncos haven't won under him, a streak that is 6 losses, and 8 losses as a club. How could anyone rate him as the best available option, surely he cannot be seen as a better option than Tsang, Mbu, Ward or even Powell who were all locally based.
It just doesn't make sense. It is a very hard sell.

Regarding "help" there seems to be an army of people in orange Jackets with no specific skill, paid to be about on a matchday, when there is zero chance of crowd trouble, who could be allocated to specific roles after 3pm.

Also I do not see why the club cannot get the non-selected players to fulfill the matchday roles; I would not for instance expect Wellington Albert to dress up as Dusty, but I cannot see why the non-selected players can't do the administrative roles like manning the ticket office.

I think as things stand the way forward for the club is to declare an amnesty for the dozens or hundreds of blocked supporters and to bring in a friendly face to try to win back them. The club needs that person to be focused upon the customer experience.

I would be comfortable about supporting the club, even on a matchday, if the wrong people go and the right people are in place.

I suspect that there are others like me.

I pray the club can start to do things right again.

RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player1662No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78489_1618348897.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png



^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^

RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player1941
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Thanks Mark. It was very interesting to hear a little bit more about what has been going on behind the scenes. Many of us, whilst appreciating many of the challenges, have been baffled by much of the decision making and the lack of joined up thinking. I

RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player1662No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78489_1618348897.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png



Quote: BigTime " Many of us, whilst appreciating many of the challenges, have been baffled by much of the decision making and the lack of joined up thinking. I'"

I've not. Ever since Gus told Petra she was surplus to requirements at QuinsRL.......there is no excuse. If an apology is coming it needs to come from Hughes. He has done this, although I genuinely believe he has little idea if what goes on at the club other than "rugby" and "his money gets spent".....HIS APPOINTMENTS are his responsibility.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member5082
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1428_1671282854.png
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae-HziERgfk:p2kbb0c5]Gus Mackay we salute you!![/url:p2kbb0c5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1428.png



Quote: orangeman "If an apology is coming it needs to come from Hughes. He has done this, although I genuinely believe he has little idea if what goes on at the club other than "rugby" and "his money gets spent".....HIS APPOINTMENTS are his responsibility.'"


Yep, Hughes has to take the blame. He has slowly but surely screwed the club up.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1025No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Thing is, everyone else can see the problems (and have for a long time) but those at the club that matter, cannot.

I also would happily come back, even help out if the club showed they are interested in building bridges and moving in the right direction, but let's be honest, we all know that will not happen.

The club could do itself a huge favour, but they are either too clueless or too stubborn

RankPostsTeam
International Star681
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



And once crowds will fall below 1K average, then who will get the blame for the move failing, the few remaining fans not the idiots who gutted the squad, while forcing a pointless move, while increasing prices by such a jump.

Its just a question of which game it will be when DH finally realises that the move has not worked, and then his reaction will depend on if we still have a club.

Also looks likely that Wimbledon might also get relegated this year, they lost again today. Sorry about this @smithers

RankPostsTeam
International Star1025No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



More chance they want the club to stay (need the money)??

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1434No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Mar 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Mark, I wasn't a member of LBSA - I joined the day BOSG was announced having previously refused to do so as I thought it should have been London RL based, not Broncos based. I struggle to see how BOSG offered a way forward. Please can you let me know why we are in disagreement here? After 20 plus years as a season ticket holder I haven't been a game since BoSG launched. That's partially due to Covid, to family ill health and me being ill but I hope to return soon. What am I missing?

RankPostsTeam
International Star681
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Honkytonk "More chance they want the club to stay (need the money)??'"


its more on if DH will continue to pay the rent if London end up looking like in League 1.

I would say that if London lose to Dewsbury and go potentially 0-10, I would expect some reaction from Hughes. Although I'm not sure exactly what it would be

RankPostsTeam
International Star1025No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Tbh, I cant see anything over than the club going to the wall.

What do we have?? Part time squad, part time coach, no staff. Simple things like programmes/decent merchandise gone. Theres nothing. Just put it out of its misery

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7392No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
20337_1416501684.jpg
Mac out!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20337.jpg



Things must be desperate if Rammo has come on here to offer his views, as he is perceived as being Monkeys insider and cohort from the support base!

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner217
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
5844_1671287227.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5844.png



Quote: markrammond "...I would not for instance expect Wellington Albert to dress up as Dusty....'"

Tiger Carroll used to don the Buck costume back in the day. Often with hilarious consequences.

RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player1662No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78489_1618348897.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78489.png



1. Saturday Night, 7 days after York and the Bradford banner on the club site is still wrong 2.01171875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9m
FC v hull kr
Tarquin Fueg
1
30m
The Seagulls v The Panthers
SingaporeFax
21
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Cokey
60119
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3149
1m
WHO IS NEXT
gym bunny 1
153
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1657
1m
FC v hull kr
Tarquin Fueg
1
1m
Injuries and available cover
Marcus's Bic
15
2m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
The Reaper
2373
2m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
9285
2m
Salford - Away
Marcus's Bic
122
3m
Tonights game v Giants
Uncle Rico
39
3m
Round 16 London Home
The Biffs Ba
100
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Tarquin Fueg
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Leeds Home
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 17
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
Where are the away fans
The Phantom
4
TODAY
Salford Hold On To Beat Unlucky Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rate My Takeaway
Trojan Horse
5
TODAY
Woeful performance against London
ploinerrhino
2
TODAY
Accountability
Hangerman2
3
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
Philbetter
5
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
Uncle Rico
39
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
4
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
The Biffs Ba
100
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
111
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
440
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
451
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1585
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1181
Big Win for England Women Over..
928
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1169
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1270
Super League form rewarded as ..
1577
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1646
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1574
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1374
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1689
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1917
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1850
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 2,448 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 11th Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
10:50
Dolphins
v
Souths
 Fri 12th Jul
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
11:00
Cronulla
v
Wests
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
17:30
WiganW
v
St.HelensW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
20:00
LondonB
v
Castleford
20:00
Warrington
v
Leeds
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
 Sat 13th Jul
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Parramatta
10:35
Brisbane
v
St.George
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
York V
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
15:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
17:30
Catalans
v
Salford
 Sun 14th Jul
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
Wire W
v
LeedsW
       League One 2024-R15
14:00
Newcastle
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
14:00
Hudds W
v
BarrowW
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Wakefield
15:00
Halifax
v
Featherstone
15:00
Sheffield
v
Swinton
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 12th Jul
SL
20:00
LondonB-Castleford
SL
20:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
20:00
Warrington-St.Helens
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
00:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 7th Jul
NRL 18 Sydney42-12St.George
NRL 18 Canberra12-16Newcastle
SL 16 Salford22-20Hull FC
CH 14 Dewsbury16-20Doncaster
CH 14 Featherstone66-0Whitehaven
CH 14 Swinton24-12Widnes
CH 14 Wakefield34-12Batley
CH 14 York54-12Barrow
L1 14 Newcastle0-44Workington
L1 14 Crusaders18-32Midlands
L1 14 Keighley20-20Rochdale
WSL2024 7 Wire W10-32Hudds W
WSL2024 7 York V44-0BarrowW
Sat 6th Jul
NRL 18 Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL 18 Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL 18 NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL 16 Hull KR14-16Catalans
SL 16 Leeds17-16LondonB
CH 14 Toulouse12-12Bradford
WSL2024 7 LeedsW6-16St.HelensW
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Warrington 16 406 213 193 22
Hull KR 16 397 217 180 22
Salford 16 317 308 9 22
Catalans 16 304 234 70 20
 
Leeds 16 291 286 5 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 16 218 496 -278 4
LondonB 16 156 615 -459 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 14 520 154 366 28
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 14 353 230 123 19
Toulouse 13 344 186 158 17
Widnes 14 327 269 58 15
Featherstone 14 396 283 113 14
 
Doncaster 14 257 341 -84 13
York 15 339 305 34 12
Batley 14 217 320 -103 12
Swinton 14 284 344 -60 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Whitehaven 14 266 424 -158 10
Barrow 13 215 393 -178 10
Dewsbury 15 184 439 -255 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9m
FC v hull kr
Tarquin Fueg
1
30m
The Seagulls v The Panthers
SingaporeFax
21
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Cokey
60119
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3149
1m
WHO IS NEXT
gym bunny 1
153
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1657
1m
FC v hull kr
Tarquin Fueg
1
1m
Injuries and available cover
Marcus's Bic
15
2m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
The Reaper
2373
2m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
9285
2m
Salford - Away
Marcus's Bic
122
3m
Tonights game v Giants
Uncle Rico
39
3m
Round 16 London Home
The Biffs Ba
100
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Tarquin Fueg
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Leeds Home
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 17
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
Where are the away fans
The Phantom
4
TODAY
Salford Hold On To Beat Unlucky Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rate My Takeaway
Trojan Horse
5
TODAY
Woeful performance against London
ploinerrhino
2
TODAY
Accountability
Hangerman2
3
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
Philbetter
5
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
Uncle Rico
39
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
4
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
The Biffs Ba
100
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
111
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
440
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
451
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1585
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1181
Big Win for England Women Over..
928
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1169
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1270
Super League form rewarded as ..
1577
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1646
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1574
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1374
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1689
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1917
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1850


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!