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Quote: northernbloke "Honkytonk.
What we need to do this season is survive the drop. We are going to be on the of a couple of hidings, we have to accept that, we will hopefully pick up enough wins to not finish bottom. The squad we have is light, nobody denies that, but the squad we do have can play some entertaining rugby.
The problem with spending big is if it does not work then we become the next Widnes!
2000 is nowhere near enough, but with the help of away supporters if we can slowly build the numbers and keep the interest going in the press, the much needed new investment might appear.
So what to do, keep faith with a bunch of lads who earned the promotion supplemented by the likes of Yates etc or spend money we don’t have and import a team?
I reckon easter into mid season we may see a couple come in.'"



I get that, and I am not knocking the effort of the players we have. We need to survive, so give yourself the best chance. In reality, is the squad that much stronger than last season??? If Hughes wants us to stay up, maybe this season we (he) needed to dig deep and fund a couple more SL quality players, maybe then next season some of the younger players will be in a better position to make an impact in the first team, the squad will be better established Will bringing players in mid season be too late, why not before the season started.

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Quote: Honkytonk "I get that, and I am not knocking the effort of the players we have. We need to survive, so give yourself the best chance. In reality, is the squad that much stronger than last season??? If Hughes wants us to stay up, maybe this season we (he) needed to dig deep and fund a couple more SL quality players, maybe then next season some of the younger players will be in a better position to make an impact in the first team, the squad will be better established Will bringing players in mid season be too late, why not before the season started.'"



This sounds very much like my thoughts.
If there were one position where I feel Hughes NEEDED to spend was on a replacement for Sammut. Didn't make Saturday's game but Walker seemed a big loss. Sounds like a bit of square pegs into round holes is going on - would Dixon have been a better bet at FB, having played there earlier in his career? Why play a great hooker in Cunningham as a half back?
Our squad is small and little changed from last season - one thing I felt from last year's 8s was that we didn't look to have the speed with the ball or the speed of thought of some of the SL teams, although we did beat a couple of them.
I'm not advocating wholesale changes but surely Wardy has to change the 19 a bit for next weekend?

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I haven't been to a game in ages due to family and personal reasons. so im not in a postion unlike others to comment here on changes to the team for the Wigan game.
But reading here on what others are saying and from what I have seen of the games played so far, those that go to the games know what they are looking at and can see what is working and what aint, (even the guys on the radio seen to feel some positional changes are needed).
I agree with everyone Cunningham is no SH and needs to get put back in the position that earned him an England Knights call up and lets be honest what other clubs were sniffing about for the back end of last season. Hes far more effective at Hooker and has more impact on our go forward from there, along with Fozard would work much better then Fozard/Pelisser combination is at the moment.
I'm no expert but maybe its best to try changes now early in the season rather then later when it might to late to do it. We brought Morgan Smith from Warrington who plays in this position and who's fans rated highly, so try him now why we can and have games to play with this early. The two new forwards don't seem to be working I saw that for myself on TV(may sound silly but I think you get an idea of how well they are doing by the times the commentators mention their names, all I heard was Battye's name all night). As for Lovell he needs some one on one lessons with Jamie Langley on how to go into a tackle or even hit a line at speed. Try Hindmarsh the guy was playing brilliant last season and he looks like hes bulked up a bit too. It was shame that Adebyi went off early it would have been nice to see what he could have added as the game went along.
If Walker is still out for the Wigan game is it worth giving Gideon Boafo a run out at Fb as this is his team position. Could it not hurt trying these guys out before we all stay asking the club to spend money on players.

Does anyone know what has happened to Butler and Hellewell, are they carrying injuries.

Btw on Danny Richardson, yes he would be brillant for us and as a SL player is going to waste at Leigh (no disrespect meant there.), i did read that Holbrook wasnt happy or prepared to allow him to go to another SL club.

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I'm also surprised Hindmarsh has not played but perhaps he is injured.

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I think Hindmarsh, Boafo and Meadows played for Coventry yesterday.

Its great saying changes for next week but in reality what do we do?? We are not exactly blessed with great depth. Cunningham to hooker is not a conversation we should be having, he should be playing there any way. Smith then replaces him in the backs. Hindmarsh comes in for ??

We have quite a few players on 1 year deals. We go down this season we lose a few players, need to rebuild a bit again and returned to playing in front of 800 odd people. Thats not progress. I was really excited about the prospect of SL this season, a real chance for the club to make a statement on and off the pitch. As it stands I am pretty underwhelmed with both. The "Marketing", well lets face it, this is the bare minimum that a SL club should be doing, we haven't exactly re invented the wheel.

Anyway, on to Wigan and lets hope the boys can pull a rabbit out

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Actually, having had a look

Meadows, Butler and Davis played for Coventry
Hindmarsh and Boafo played for Skolars

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Quote: RfE "This sounds very much like my thoughts.
If there were one position where I feel Hughes NEEDED to spend was on a replacement for Sammut. Didn't make Saturday's game but Walker seemed a big loss. Sounds like a bit of square pegs into round holes is going on - would Dixon have been a better bet at FB, having played there earlier in his career? Why play a great hooker in Cunningham as a half back?
Our squad is small and little changed from last season - one thing I felt from last year's 8s was that we didn't look to have the speed with the ball or the speed of thought of some of the SL teams, although we did beat a couple of them.
I'm not advocating wholesale changes but surely Wardy has to change the 19 a bit for next weekend?'"

Can you tell me who was available to sign as a halfback when Sammut said he was not staying with London. Most of the good players had been signed by the time we won the million pound.

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There is always someone available. Behind the scenes players are always available, just because the fans do not know who they are does not mean they are not there.

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And you would know because ?????

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Quote: wantawin "Can you tell me who was available to sign as a halfback when Sammut said he was not staying with London. Most of the good players had been signed by the time we won the million pound.'"


One played against you on Saturday mate. Jordan Rankin, Cas signed him when Gale was ruled out for the season.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? ÂŁ20 a ticket and ÂŁ15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth ÂŁ35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club ÂŁ35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is ÂŁ4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: wantawin "Can you tell me who was available to sign as a halfback when Sammut said he was not staying with London. Most of the good players had been signed by the time we won the million pound.'"

There are a great many players of a good enough standard on the fringes of the NRL who could do the job.
Also, as an afterthought, if Sammut had signed, then decided to un-sign, then surely we could have said to Lam and Wigan he can leave if we can have him back on loan when he's not needed at Wigan?

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Quote: Call Me God "There are a great many players of a good enough standard on the fringes of the NRL who could do the job.
Also, as an afterthought, if Sammut had signed, then decided to un-sign, then surely we could have said to Lam and Wigan he can leave if we can have him back on loan when he's not needed at Wigan?'"


Whats the visa system like for fringe players?

JS didn't want to leave, it was to head North for family reasons. He's not going to come back!

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And Jarrod never signed a new contract.

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Quote: Honkytonk "I think Hindmarsh, Boafo and Meadows played for Coventry yesterday.

Its great saying changes for next week but in reality what do we do?? We are not exactly blessed with great depth. Cunningham to hooker is not a conversation we should be having, he should be playing there any way. Smith then replaces him in the backs. Hindmarsh comes in for ??

We have quite a few players on 1 year deals. We go down this season we lose a few players, need to rebuild a bit again and returned to playing in front of 800 odd people. Thats not progress. I was really excited about the prospect of SL this season, a real chance for the club to make a statement on and off the pitch. As it stands I am pretty underwhelmed with both. The "Marketing", well lets face it, this is the bare minimum that a SL club should be doing, we haven't exactly re invented the wheel.

Anyway, on to Wigan and lets hope the boys can pull a rabbit out'"


What we do is not play square pegs!
I remember Walker making his debut, he was what? 17? Looked about 12! Still does! Can't remember who he was replacing but I'm sure he was a full back replacing a full back.
Would rather play a youngster in his proper role rather than a first team winger/ centre as full back or hooker as a half back etc....

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Quote: northernbloke "And Jarrod never signed a new contract.'"


Are you sure about that ?

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