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| Quote: Bostwick "I recently spent some time in hospital. A friend bought me in The Rothmans RL Yearbook 1997 to read. Contained within are Club attendances from seasons 1988-89 through to 1996.
London average crowds were 588 in 88-89 rising to 5699 in 1996.
What surprised me most was in 1996 our attendances were the sixth largest in Super League. Bigger crowds that year than. Warrington, Castleford, Halifax, Sheffield, Workington and Oldham.
We did market ourselves then. Five pound vouchers in The Sun for example. Plus we had a good team getting good results. Happy days.'"
My first live RL game was Broncos first ever home game (under the new name, obviously) v Keighley at Hendon FC. An interesting experience having only watched the game on TV until then! The growth from that position over the following few years was fantastic and I thought the club was really going places.
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| INg Quote: nadera78 "Quote: nadera78 "I recently spent some time in hospital. A friend bought me in The Rothmans RL Yearbook 1997 to read. Contained within are Club attendances from seasons 1988-89 through to 1996.
London average crowds were 588 in 88-89 rising to 5699 in 1996.
What surprised me most was in 1996 our attendances were the sixth largest in Super League. Bigger crowds that year than. Warrington, Castleford, Halifax, Sheffield, Workington and Oldham.
We did market ourselves then. Five pound vouchers in The Sun for example. Plus we had a good team getting good results. Happy days.'"
My first live RL game was Broncos first ever home game (under the new name, obviously) v Keighley at Hendon FC. An interesting experience having only watched the game on TV until then! The growth from that position over the following few years was fantastic and I thought the club was really going places.'"OUT
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| Quote: Bostwick "I recently spent some time in hospital. A friend bought me in The Rothmans RL Yearbook 1997 to read. Contained within are Club attendances from seasons 1988-89 through to 1996.
London average crowds were 588 in 88-89 rising to 5699 in 1996.
What surprised me most was in 1996 our attendances were the sixth largest in Super League. Bigger crowds that year than. Warrington, Castleford, Halifax, Sheffield, Workington and Oldham.
We did market ourselves then. Five pound vouchers in The Sun for example. Plus we had a good team getting good results. Happy days.'"
Oh those days of average crowds of 588. Must have been the Chiswick/Crystal Palace era I think..and I’m glad we never had mobile phones in those days ..some of the players antics then makes the Tomkins brothers sound like choirboys !!
Can think of a dozen or so players that liked to socialise as I write !
Fun days ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: Mr Dog "I'm always intrigued as to why Cas seem to be looked upon as more sustainable, bigger, and with more potential than, say, Wakefield?'"
9,525 was the average attendance at Castleford in 2017.....5,289 was the number at Wakefield...one club is closer to 10k than the other and those extra fans make them closer to self sustainability.
10k average is the self sufficiency number....and that's with the SKY cash.......every fan below 10,000 means £15/£20 less income and £15/£20 needed to be found from elsewhere.........thus, currently, Wakefield aren't as close to sustainability as Castleford and therefore by association are bigger and are more sustainable whilst filling more of their potential.
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| Quote: northernbloke "Just saying that griffin park was not 5k.
Potential for 5 is always there, as we have done it in the past.'"
I don't think I said it was 5k at Griffin Park, but 4k is clearly a lot closer to it than 500. Different times have different potential to be sustainable. We are a long way from that now not least because there is very little attempt to build the crowds.
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| Quote: Call Me God "9,525 was the average attendance at Castleford in 2017.....5,289 was the number at Wakefield...one club is closer to 10k than the other and those extra fans make them closer to self sustainability.
10k average is the self sufficiency number....and that's with the SKY cash.......every fan below 10,000 means £15/£20 less income and £15/£20 needed to be found from elsewhere.........thus, currently, Wakefield aren't as close to sustainability as Castleford and therefore by association are bigger and are more sustainable whilst filling more of their potential.'"
So Cas are currently attracting 22% of the town's population - a figure that is not only going to be difficult to grow but also a bit of an outlier in terms of their usual numbers over the years - a very good season last year on the playing front having I'd say a pretty significant effect on those numbers and once their on field success wanes (at it will) numbers will drop again. Another factor against them growing much more is that even if they do actually get a new ground the published plan is for a stadium wirh a capacity of 10000 so they will have to be selling out EVERY week to become sustainable (based on your figures). If the plan really is to grow the game and attract new, significant money, it won't happen with the current incumbents remaining.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "So Cas are currently attracting 22% of the town's population - a figure that is not only going to be difficult to grow but also a bit of an outlier in terms of their usual numbers over the years - a very good season last year on the playing front having I'd say a pretty significant effect on those numbers and once their on field success wanes (at it will) numbers will drop again. Another factor against them growing much more is that even if they do actually get a new ground the published plan is for a stadium wirh a capacity of 10000 so they will have to be selling out EVERY week to become sustainable (based on your figures). If the plan really is to grow the game and attract new, significant money, it won't happen with the current incumbents remaining.'"
If you want to p!ss on Castleford, either do it on their board or on the Wakey one, but on here....and as a 100% NEUTRAL....... Castleford are the bigger and better supported team to the outside observer....this is based on facts and not what you or any other bar room annalist and their mother think.....just facts......like cash, the things you can touch, feel and take to the Bank! ![SUBMISSION c020.gif](images/smilies//c020.gif)
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