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Quote: Honkytonk "Miserable sod aren't I (Honest chaps, im not!!) I was just looking at the club as a whole, not through tinted LB glasses, and could not see much to be positive about!!! CMG, cant this former Auckland Owner work some magic with us??

Re Leigh, the two bits of info I read elsewhere were a)Along the lines of Beaumont had told fans on one of the away coaches that he would keep them going if needed. b) They have 2 players so far, one a big name forward ready to join once they make the 8s. Could all be rubbish of course, who knows. I wonder if we might do the same and bring a couple in ??'"


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To be honest I hear where you are coming from on the whole, but to write off our season and the 8s at this stage is premature. We win all our games and we are in the 8s. Our destiny is in our own hands.

That said, our troops look a bit jaded and depleted and an injection of a player or two, even on loan might spark things up. Hellewell must be back soon and he will do a better job in the centres, an area we always lack in. For me, back up hooker, string second row / centre.

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That was part of my sulky rant tbh, our squad is lacking in some important areas. We lost WB and AA. That money must have been accounted for so why did we not invest it back into the squad and replace them?? If we are serious about SL then we need to show that with the squad. If we do make the 8s, teams around us are and will strengthen. We are already behind some of those sides as we stand so that will put us further back. A couple of Loan/DR right now could give us a bit of a boost and allow some of the players a much needed rest.

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We have travelled out to Toronto and played a team of ex SL players whilst suffering jet lag. We dont have Toulouse when we arrive back with jet lag so we should put up a decent fight in our home game. Every team in the championship will have to play two jet lag games apart from Toronto. They have had the easiest ride of all teams as they dont have to come backwards and forwards across the pond to play their games at the end of the season. Uhm coming to think of it they didn't have to do it at the beginning of the season either. Forget Toronto, as the easy time they have received from the RFL ie playing venue, jet lagging every other team and is there such a thing as salary cap showed they were going to make them go into SL come hell or high water. Just dont give up on us yet all the other teams still have to cross the pond

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Simple enough to get promoted, win the league next season, sorted.

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Will.it work like that for the one up, or will it be top 4 semi then final, or a shoot out between the top 2??

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "Simple enough to get promoted, win the league next season, sorted.'"

easier said than done........ad without one of our stars who was apparently endearing himself to the wolfpack fans after the game....Jarrod Sammutt apparently made a big effort to meet with a young first time fan and to ingratiate himself with their fan-base.....or am I truly just a cynic?

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Of course it’s easier said than done, no one said it was going to be easy!

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: northernbloke "Of course it’s easier said than done, no one said it was going to be easy!'"

it's impossible under the current structure......

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CMG, your not alone there. The miserable cynical sod that I am, I also noticed about Sammut. Plus the fact that a few weeks ago he tweeted about "some exciting chit chat going on behind the scenes" . Someone asked if about Broncos but he said it was family and next year. I wondered if it involved a move acorss the pond!!!!

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Jarrod Sammut is one of the nicest guys in the game. He's always got time for anyone and everyone who wants a chat, even after defeat.

Besides, I really don't think Toronto are interested in a guy who, with the best will in the world, is 31 years old and a Championship standard scrum half. They've got their eyes on much bigger fish.

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Tend to agree with nadera on this one.

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Although it took me a while to be convinced by Sammut he's been consistently our best performer this past season and a half - so if he's leaving then I'd be sorry but I'd thank him for some great performances for us.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: RfE "Although it took me a while to be convinced by Sammut he's been consistently our best performer this past season and a half - so if he's leaving then I'd be sorry but I'd thank him for some great performances for us.'"

It would seem I have been harsh on the guy and his motives and for that I apologise.....it just sounded very contrived but as I said, cynicism and old age are a "horse and carriage".......

....we didn't play too badly BTW.......we were just undone by a more aggressive and street savvy side......and I LOVE to 2004/5 retro away shirt!

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Anyhow, next 3 games we should get 6 from 6 points.
Leigh have got a difficult 3 games away to Toronto and Toulouse and Dewsbury, be interesting to see how they fair. I reckon 2 wins from 3.
Fax and Fev have a pretty easy 3 games apart from both of em playing Barrow who could trouble em maybe.
Let’s see what happens

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I've got Fax dropping out of the race without their two halves.
Toronto, Toulouse and Fev 1-3.
London and Leigh both on 30pts, and 4th place being decided on points difference.

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