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| Quote: northernbloke "Some interesting comments from Ralph rimmer on Toronto SL promotion
Woodsys parting shot is to conduct a review on "return of investment^ and value in the comp.'"
Toronto turned down the 75k last year and I believe have waived the 150k central funding this year, as well as covering costs for UK clubs travel and accommodation. This year the investment from their sponsor is minimised by the skewed fixture list with the added bonus of no "extra" costs for getting Toulouse to an airport served by AirTransat.........so to date, they've diluted the talent pool and sorted out an extremely minor TV deal in Canada with a bolt on of "shed tv" coverage in the UK through premiere.
There have been repeated stories of the biggest task last year being keeping the squad sober and out of houses of Ill repute, as they knew a they had to do was turn up........
...I am increasingly under the impression that the business plan is to get teams into SL to receive the SKY cash to cover some running costs and then look for a TV deal.......and that's not a pan, but more of a "punt"........something along the lines of PSG and to a lesser extent, us.
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| All depends how woodsy sees it
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| Quote: northernbloke "All depends how woodsy sees it'"
...alas, no more.
Adam Pearson and his fellow 11 SL crusaders who believe that by May we will be able to compete with Union will dictate who joins them at the table. Currently I see a Toronto Wolpack side with a contra-deal for their main shirt sponsor, with no other paying sponsors, no paying TV deal and no plans other than chasing a SL paycheck in the "hope" that they can then deliver a TV deal......and to me, it's becoming more of a pipe dream by every turn of the page.
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| If the North Americans see enough of top RL, they may get hooked, so don't rule out TV deals. TV is always looking for something new, you never know if RL may be it. Don't rule out TWP, they sure know how to charm the media.
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| Dog, not sure about your alas no more comment on woodsy, care to explain
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| Toronto are playing Halifax in our backyard then. New River to host the game that cannot be played in Canada due to stadium work.
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| Seriously? Bit of a finger to Halifax fans, deny them the trip to Canada then turn round and say tell you what we will try to take the game as far away from Fax as we can to make it easy for you to come and see the game
Suppose they are thinking there might be be a few Canuck ex pats in london that may come and watch.
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| Yes on 28th April. Skolars obviously helping out.
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| Wonder if TWP are paying for Halifax travel costs to london?
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| Quote: northernbloke "Wonder if TWP are paying for Halifax travel costs to london?'"
Halifax have asked but unfortunately as a few clubs have pointed out to me the Wankpack have been very smart with their words when they joined stating they will cover all clubs costs for games in Canada. No mention of covering costs outside of Canada. In all fairness I don't think they should have to anyway. Halifax would have to pay to go to Cumbria or London Skolars so if the game is in the UK it should be Halifax who pay.
Thankfully Halifax have cash and will likely stay over anyway. Just hope they turn these lot over in front of a massive crowd of 120 Canadians ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Don’t think that many Canadians turned out for the “historic” game when they played at Skolars last time out! Give skolars credit they did get a reasonable crowd but don’t think that many were N Americans. Personally I think they should be covering Halifax costs! This game sensibly should be being played within easy travel distance for the fax fans.
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| Quote: MonkeyLover "the Wankpack '"
Take a bow sir, take a Bow! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) I will be refering to them as such from this day forth (moderators permitting)....
Toronto have moved that many goalposts in 12 short months that you'd think the SL chairman will see beyond their bluster, smoke and mirrors. For all their owners Billions of AU$ it does seem to the casual observer that the purse strings have been somewhat tightened this year. I know they have pitch issues in Toronto, but surely Perez could have taken a few games to Hamilton or Boston.....seeing as he's dead set keen on those cities having teams, but the cynic in me sees the ability to play all those games in 2 chunks of home and away, points very much to the "sponsor" not getting any traction or return on their free flights for a logo on the shirt scenario......and very little need to cover the teams accommodation costs when they are away as most of them can have mums home cooked meals....... ![WHISTLE eusa_whistle.gif](images/smilies//eusa_whistle.gif)
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| Quote: Call Me God "Take a bow sir, take a Bow!
Or, and this is purely speculation and not stuff coming from within the RFL to people I have good relationships with -
* Perez has gone, has been gone a while now and the marketing machine is now being run by 'Honest' Martin Vickers, that guy who left Salford and Swinton in such good order. If he was still there do you really think they would have not had merchandise on sale since November? Replica shirts released in March, 4 weeks into the season at least? The guy went mental last year because they were only ready for Christmas day and not two weeks before. The current people are not driven by trying to save Argyle's money, they are just on the gravy train and turning their attention to the easier stuff.
* They have always intended to play as many games in the UK after realising last year that life outside of SL is very expensive and with no real sponsors it is even harder. Whilst players are in the UK they are housing and feeding themselves and costing the club less. I did say on several platforms when Ackers went that the homesick thing would become clear.
* They are asking the RFL already for 2019's money and contrary to popular opinion they are in fact getting money from the RFL now.
*They have failed to submit last years Cap yet.
* They are fully aware now, as are others in the game, that if they got to the point were the SL Chairman need to decide if they should let them in the answer will be no. For some reason most of them dislike the Wankpack and would rather have Leigh, London or Featherstone in, clubs run by like minded people to themselves. Because they have realised there is no chance of them getting in they have come up with a solution of getting all cosy with Mr Koukash and his Bradford club which will be a great way for them to get out of this embarrassing mess they are in which is getting worse by the month.
Now this could be a load of pony but why would a global sporting super power like them not be able to convince a club in the same City to allow them to play some games on their pitch if they really wanted to? As you have said, they could have taken it on the road. They are minted, they have more money that the Queen, why didn't they go to Miami, New York, Jamaica, China? Even if they thought it was better to play in England are they honestly expecting us to believe Skolars was the best option in London? Supposedly chosen because the Canadian Embassy is sponsoring the game and there will be Mounties on horse back. Argyle could have rented any ground he wanted in London for a game that could have sent shockwaves through the sport. Nah, 'lets go to Skolars, it is ideally located for all of the Ex Pat Canadians who we want to entice into the sport'.
How come if they are so rich they owe so many people money? The list is growing daily. Mind you, that was something 'Honest Mart' was really good at when he was at Salford and Swinton. As their poor fans will testify.
To be fair there are some really good journalists with far more questions than this, it will be an interesting few months.
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| “The Broncos game and subsequent home matchups June 16 against Dewsbury and June 23 against Barrow fall before the city’s projected June 29 end of construction. There is also a June 30 game against Leigh.”
So latest projected end of construction date given by the city of Toronto has changed since the discussion we were having earlier in this thread. It’s a city council project I would be gob smacked if there is an early completion bonus, so why would any contractor want to finish early.
Anyone booking flights yet? Wonder where they will re schedule our game somewhere sensible? Newcastle thunder ground maybe? Looking at that press report they could go the whole regular season without playing at the home ground, and no mansion of an alternate stadium.
Hope woodsy is looking at that with his review.
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| There are a few I know who have booked either packages or Flights and Hotels. We have accommodation booked but we can cancel that. We have held back on booking flights and will await concrete confirmation before we do commit.
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