My honest opinion on the game as a whole! Bradford played to there strengths, the ptb was much quicker and they dominated us in the ruck.
We lost direction on the park soon as Hendo came off..its hard to win a game without the ball, we gave it away 14 times and probably conceded 30 mtrs on every one of those 14 occasions.

It was the same last year, we never learnt to play the ref, commit an offence like holding down once can be seen as testing the ref, twice ok laziness 3-4-5 just plain stupid.

as soon as we learn that quick ptb gets results we will start improving, tackle technique to control the ruck in defence earns you the right to have that little extra time to set your defence.
And don't bloody argue decisions even if you think it's wrong, ref is never gonna change his mind because you are in his face, aka 40/20 suck it up and get on with it.

Couldn't disagree more with this post. God knows we're a long way from the finished article and Bradford are clearly, on their day, a better team than us. But this really wasn't their day - even after they'd been given countless ball on the bad of some decidedly dodgy refereeing decisions. When the penalties started coming they started scoring - often after we'd successfully held them out for more than one set. Given that the decisions came after such bad (let's call them bad, other words do spring to mind) calls I'm not sure what you're expecting from our team. Eventually, a side as good as Bradford are going to get through your defence. I therefore don't blame the players for conceding, even the softer tries, on the bad of bad refereeing calls. Yes, yes, you need to get on with it and try and keep them out if you can, but I think it's poor form to highlight our deficiencies on those occasions, and not acknowledge a far bigger factor of the lame-brain decision that immediately preceded it.

I actually thought we did well to stay in the game as long as we did, to not collapse immediately before half time also when I can't remember us having the ball at all! I was hopeful that the second half refereeing couldn't be as bad so we had a chance. But actually it was worse and THAT more than any other factor in the game is why we didn't give them a closer game. There are plenty of times where it's easy to hide behind the refereeing decisions as hiding a bad performance. For once this really isn't one of those times!! Wise up people, we did ok in the circumstances. It's only a game of course, but we don't have to look inward on this one. We were done, it wasn't right but I'm also not suggesting some malevolent conspiracy either. Hopefully it won't happen again, but if we have to apportion blame let's at least get it right this time.

Have to say that I agree with the view that we are a far better team with Hendo on the field. It's not that he produces anything special, it's just that he talks and harries his teammates. I am amazed that we don't have another player who can do this. We are lazy and without direction when he's off the field.

Bad decisions from the Ref that got worse, which game did you watch? The issue is LB could not handle the quick play the ball and were more often than not lazy in their tackle technique. Referees do not lose games only players.

Daft dad well said, at least you were watching same game as me.

Yes first time this year.

Good you made it down mate, you gonna see how we get on against Leigh or you had enough pain?

A little more respect for the ball and that could have been a different scoreline.

Such nonsense I'm not even going to get into it. But would love to know how many instances you can recall where a side has beaten a side above them in the league with a 3:1 penalty ratio against them

Apos so why was penalty count 3 to 1

Good question. Certainly wasn't because we were excessively dirtier or poorer disciplined than they were. The opposite if anything if you consider the nonsense that went on after tackles were complete.

Thankfully yesterday happened and proved my point for me. Get a decent ref and put in a decent performance against a better side and you have a chance of a win. But if everything is being given against you, and virtually nothing for you, there's little you can do except damage limitation.

Off the top of my head.....

We drew with FC at Griffin Park due to an error at the end of the game by Ganson. Dennis Moran was clear one on one, chipped the FB and was pulled back as he chased the ball........
We lost heavily to Leeds at the Stoop as Quins after leading at Half time because Bentham only gave Webb 10 minutes instead of a red for an awful head high DELIBERATE hit on McLinden...Webb scored twice when he came back on and McLinden didn't get a penalty try which was warranted.

Referees have a massive impact on the outcome of games. If Catalan had beaten Wire last week it would have been 100% down to them messing about at the PTB. Even the head of the referees commented on it.

Nope, referees don't miss tackles or score tries, but they do influence the outcome of games and the best refs are the ones who seem even handed throughout a season.......Ashley Clown was pretty good at it.

We'll NEVER forget that one, will we?

Jim, got news for you, you can't play the game without them!

One error as you say by Mr Ganson in a draw, what about the other 79 minutes 55 seconds in the game. One incident is not the game folk conveniently forget that, it's quite funny that people think one incident decides a game what about all the other points that teams concede.
you mentioned the head of referees who do you refer too?
what's the rule for awarding a penalty try, do you know?