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Sorry, that was poor communication.

The Australians signed by Tony Rea have played for the club for a combined 20 years between them all.

Randall has been here since around 2005/2006, Howell since 2008, Dorn has been here for two spells with his first in 2005-2006 and second since 2009.

I think Melling is the longest serving English player from another club.
That is pretty much a clear out of all your longest serving players in one go if all go as I believe is going to be the case.

That is going to have a big impact, after all, these guys were the playing foundation in the past and probably the social foundation for new starters.

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Quote: markrammond "Sarginson who is believed to have signed for Wigan.'"



Dan denied this at the weekend, he said he has had offers from several clubs as well as of course from our club, he loves London but is honoured that other clubs would like to sign him, he said his Management will be at the Magic Weekend and he will have discussions with them and they will have discussions with London.

I feel that Dan is not the finished product yet and one more season in London will do no harm, yes going to another club you can say he will have better players around him, but would he get regular matches?

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The thing is, if you were to move to any club you have to honestly ask yourself - Am I better than the starting 13 in any position? Them, am I better than the starting 17 in any position? And if not, when will I be? Otherwise you will be out on loan unless luck falls your way.

I couldn't see Dan dislodging anyone at Wigan that is for sure.

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Agree Rammo...no disrespect to Sargi but it would be surprising if Wigan don't have anyone as good as him amongst their young'uns.

He would be better served sticking around here for another year (and hope he can stay fit...he's either injury prone or a bit unlucky, take your pick).

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Whilst I'd agree a year of regular first team action would be best the length of contract comes into play. It would seem likely we will be offering one year contracts given the uncertainty about our future. The potential financial security of, say, a three year deal elsewhere will surely be rather attractive.

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Quote: markrammond "I personally felt that this season would be a great one if we could avoid the bottom three and a good one if we could avoid bottom given the squad we had, which let's face it has been consistently been at a 20% win rate for the last 40 games of Mac's tenure, not even that with Powell and now is at around the 33% mark since Tony came back, so is improving but not even Wayne Bennett could expect to put Alex Hurst against Pat Richards or lose his one Hooker, who is the retired assistant coach after 5 minutes, and hold out against Wigan.

Some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue. I didn't enjoy being the statue. It was like being in an electric chair.

Rammo

Well said Rammo. Tony Rea has the hand he has been dealt with. Judge him more on next season, which is asking a lot of the poor long suffering London fan, but he is obviously looking at new signings.


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Quote: Rooster Booster "which is asking a lot of the poor long suffering London fan, '"

never before has the use of singular as opposed to plural been more accurate.... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Not sure what you think is the current base at the Club RB, but I can assure you it is well below 800 ST holders.

The Club are moving, but as yet refuse to tell their fans where too and by the sounds of it, a good number of the squad received letters saying "thanks but no thanks for 2015" over the last week or so and reacted on the pitch v Wigan.

Seriously....the club as they are now are not in any way shape or form the club you seem to remember from your days on the ground.....2,181 is the average gate to date, 13th in the table with 2 points let in for each one we score.

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Quote: gutterfax "never before has the use of singular as opposed to plural been more accurate....

Less than 800 is sad isn't it.

As has been mentioned previous, the club have always been tight lipped about anything over the years. This has been a cause of frustration for many over many years.

It is interesting to hear that clubs are telling people now as over here that isn't the done thing. Believe it or not a large percentage of players in a 25-33 man squad are uncertain of their future year on year. Also as I intimated, this can be a good thing as a player knows now where their future lies. In this instance, not at London. And if this is a common occurence in the UK now, then other players at other clubs will have been given notice also. Maybe even at Wigan also.

Thing is, how does a player respond? If you think about it. You tell your manager and if you want a future in the top flight you play your nuts off for the rest of the season, trying to attract a new club. You don't do that, then tata off to part timer land or you're simply not good enough for first grade anyway.

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I think the thing is that some people will be upset with any home loss, even if they have previously enjoyed three consecutive home wins in a row and can lose sight of previously better perfornances, but then we left in a world of instantaneous communication and immediate gratification.

The reality of this game is that played the best team in the league who were 1/10 on with many bookies and at close to full strength and were well beaten. Any home supporter could be justifiably disappointed with the earlyness of the collapse which went on from about six minutes onwards and which you would not expect when players are still relatively fresh.

We were simply outclassed, with one player able to cut us to pieces through the middle and getting a hat-trick and setting up at least three tries and two other international wingers doing the same on the flanks. The guys were demoralised that is for sure.

The underlying issue is that we have signings from Tony's first spell, Mac's spell, Powell's spell and Tony's second spell.

Mac tended to sign players who were already old or Leeds/Bradford youngsters who did not make the grade, gave short contracts to our home grown players but longer contracts to the older players. Powell signed players who were injury prone or again further renewed contracts just as Mac also did.

Tony has already released 10 players and he'll be close to doing the same again so he is actively managing the problem, whenever contracts expire, so he is doing all he can.

I don't want people to be driving away Tony or alienating the players.

I mean come on, is Gus going to be interested in a fan's forum when people are basically downright insulting him at every opportunity? Is reminding the club daily of dwindling attendances going to add more. Sometimes you can kill the one you love but not through kindness but your unkindness.

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Quote: markrammond "To save space on the page. What you just said above'"


You make so much sense to me.

Which could be worrying for you icon_lol.gif

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Quote: markrammond "I think the thing is that some people will be upset with any home loss, even if they have previously enjoyed three consecutive home wins in a row and can lose sight of previously better perfornances, but then we left in a world of instantaneous communication and immediate gratification.

The reality of this game is that played the best team in the league who were 1/10 on with many bookies and at close to full strength and were well beaten. Any home supporter could be justifiably disappointed with the earlyness of the collapse which went on from about six minutes onwards and which you would not expect when players are still relatively fresh.

We were simply outclassed, with one player able to cut us to pieces through the middle and getting a hat-trick and setting up at least three tries and two other international wingers doing the same on the flanks. The guys were demoralised that is for sure.

The underlying issue is that we have signings from Tony's first spell, Mac's spell, Powell's spell and Tony's second spell.

Mac tended to sign players who were already old or Leeds/Bradford youngsters who did not make the grade, gave short contracts to our home grown players but longer contracts to the older players. Powell signed players who were injury prone or again further renewed contracts just as Mac also did.

Tony has already released 10 players and he'll be close to doing the same again so he is actively managing the problem, whenever contracts expire, so he is doing all he can.

I don't want people to be driving away Tony or alienating the players.

I mean come on, is Gus going to be interested in a fan's forum when people are basically downright insulting him at every opportunity? Is reminding the club daily of dwindling attendances going to add more. Sometimes you can kill the one you love but not through kindness but your unkindness.'"


We have this last season 2013 at the Stoop. Many players are OOC this season and are not expected to be retained so are not allways putting a shift it.

Next season 2014 we move to a new ground and have to apply again for a franchise - or maybe DH will say he's had enough (This is what i expect him to do)

Any players we try to sign at the end of this season will be thinking are they going to even apply for a franchise - llet alone be granted one (which is in doubt). So...who will sign for us? If TR can't get better players than this bunch then we will not get any improvement in 2014.

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If we imagined we were going fishing then our pools could be the NRL, Super League, the second tier Australian competitions and then the second tier English competitions.

The exchange rate suggests that the NRL will be a very expensive pool for anyone to go fishing in which cuts down the options of all in Super League.

The Super League competition is one in which established talent is likely to be overpriced if they come to London meaning you are likely to end up with declining veterans or non-established players at a larger price than they are worth.

The second tier English competition has some handy players, especially when people have exploited the Kolpak ruling to sign international Papua New Guineans like Menzie Yere, Jessie Joe Parker and Rodney Pora and some of the younger players cannot be discounted.

But where I think will prove most fruitful is the fringe players in the NRL and lower tier leagues and that is why I am very pleased Tony is in place. He has a proven track record of discovery in these leagues.

Assuming many players are released, then we can strike at what we need.

The quality of Tony's network is such that Phil Bailey was released almost the moment that Tony arrived as he wasn't needed.

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I'm not sure how many players in Oz will be interested in coming to any SL club next season. There was an article in the 'Independent' today about how a large part of London's antipodean community are now going home because of the c**p exchange rate between the pound and Oz dollar. Has RB any thoughts on this?

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Quote: markrammond "
The reality of this game is that played the best team in the league who were 1/10 on with many bookies and at close to full strength and were well beaten. Any home supporter could be justifiably disappointed with the earlyness of the collapse which went on from about six minutes onwards and which you would not expect when players are still relatively fresh.

We were simply outclassed, with one player able to cut us to pieces through the middle and getting a hat-trick and setting up at least three tries and two other international wingers doing the same on the flanks. The guys were demoralised that is for sure.
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I don't think a single person is angry about the defeat, that's a straw man. But plenty are angry at the surrender which, as a paying customer, I won't accept.

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Quote: markrammond "
I personally felt that this season would be a great one if we could avoid the bottom three and a good one if we could avoid bottom given the squad we had,
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With all respect, I don't think that's what you said in pre-season. icon_biggrin.gif

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