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Quote: gutterfax "I will continue to snipe and people will shout me down, but regardless of the announcement in Friday, things do need to change for the business to grow.'"


I doubt many will disagree that things need to change but carpet bombing might have been a better description of your postings on here. icon_lol.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: jbuzza "I doubt many will disagree that things need to change but carpet bombing might have been a better description of your postings on here. Agreed. If only the club would use such tactics on the marketi..........oops.
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Quote: nadera78 "I started watching this club in 1994, Broncos v Keighley at Hendon FC. I've seens lots of things going on since then and followed the club from one side fo the city to the other and back again. The position the club is in now isn't simply another fight against the odds, it's the culmination of a long period of complete mismanagement. Diehard fans are leaving, to be replaced by....? If there isn't root and branch reform then superficial changes will only serve to see the club exist for another franchise round before the continual exodus of dedicated fans sees it disappear completely.

That's not me lookng for negatives, it's the logical conclusion of what has happened over the last five years.'"


So Nadera - why are diehard fans leaving?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Paddock Punter "So Nadera - why are diehard fans leaving?'"


Some left because of the tie in with a Union brand and they are no loss.

The average gate for a london RL game since 2000 is 3,607.
The highest average in those 11 seasons was as Harlequins in 2006...the lowest was 3,232 as The Broncos in 2001.
The core support at Harlequins RL has pretty much stayed the same over the 11 years......some have drifted, some have left the country, but true fans never stop supporting their team.

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I am glad you seem to be getting it sorted out.But there must be some kind of punishment,Is it fair other teams to get points taken away but harlequins rugby league club not to ?.
Many a club including my team widnes, That have nearly gone to the wall have still had points taken away before the season starts?
One more thing now u know you should be safe,Will this ever happen again,If its been going on for several seasons what will change ?
Before u start saying im a troll,i am not, you must see how it looks from all the other clubs perspective.
Good luck friday against our old enemy warrington a014.gif

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Punishment for what !!!!! ..........oh another supposed bail out from the RFL. If anyone should be penalised / punished it should be Ian Lenaghan and Wigan for breaching an agreement with the RFL. The RFL have as I understand it confiscated Lenaghan's shareholding - they have not as far as I am aware bought them or paid us humungous sums of money to keep us afloat

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: W.R.L.F.C "I am glad you seem to be getting it sorted out.But there must be some kind of punishment,Is it fair other teams to get points taken away but harlequins rugby league club not to ?.'"
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Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.

Quote: W.R.L.F.C "Many a club including my team widnes, That have nearly gone to the wall have still had points taken away before the season starts?'"
...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.

Quote: W.R.L.F.C "One more thing now u know you should be safe,Will this ever happen again,If its been going on for several seasons what will change ?'"
..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone
....why post rubbish then?

Quote: W.R.L.F.C "you must see how it looks from all the other clubs perspective.'"
.....the main problem with Rugby League is fans seem to want to point out the supposed failings of other clubs rather than concentrating on their own clubs failings......
....we do not get hand outs, we play in a nice ground, we have the most british team in SL, we are developing the game in the south east at our own expense and we have a minority shareholder who up until Friday who has backed us 100% financially.

These other clubs have issues of their own......Quins will deal with the crowd issue........but as a debt free club who are sticking to the rules as regard development and overseas players I would say Quins are in with a fair chance of getting another 3 years.
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Quote: gutterfax ".

Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.

...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.

..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone
Thank you Gutters for putting it much more eloquently than I did icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: gutterfax ".

Punishment for what? As far as I know, the club have no overdraft, no bank loans, no money owed to anyone? Ian Lenagan and David hughes own the business (at the moment) and therefore, they "invest" money like any other business owner. They are not owed money....business owners invest....they don't loan.

...we haven't gone bust. We haven't nearly gone bust......what we have done is got the RFL to kick the 65% owner of the club to do what he said he was going to do.......but we have broken no rules. In 2005 we broke no rules either....but you conspiracy theorists will never learn.

..What? Our terrible crowds? Hope the club sort that out, but I fail to see what point you are trying to make here? The RFL have never "bailed us out", regardless of the b0ll0x posted by trolls....as for being safe, we need to re-apply in 2011...just like everyone else so we are not "safe". We will score points for some things and lose points for others....but we needed to get rid of an owner who was breaking RFL rules by owning 2 clubs. IMO, Wigan should be punished if anyone Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.I know you havent had hand outs but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?
Im tipping u to beat warrington friday, for widnes after them winning that cup again k020.gif

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Quote: W.R.L.F.C "Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.I know you havent had hand outs but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?
Im tipping u to beat warrington friday, for widnes after them winning that cup again
Where have we lost 7 million pounds ????? link or copy of balance sheet please

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Quote: Fan50 "Where have we lost 7 million pounds ????? link or copy of balance sheet please'"

I heard it on boots and all, that David Hughes had been pumping money in like there was no tommorow,Up to 7 million out of his own pocket, and business side still wasnt working and he had to pull out.And then i read that the wigans ian lenagan couldent get rid of his shares as the business wasnt making anything but losing.
I will leave it at that then not starting an argument good luck,Sounds to me like every 1 is going over the top about this then.
Im of back to our board as we have, exiting times ahead at widnes now, going good and should be joining u 2012 k020.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: W.R.L.F.C "Sorry i thought having no money to continue was going bust.'"

Wrong again sherlock!
We have a backer who owned 35% of the club was having to cover 100% of the losses. As it is, we have no losses as he has covered them.......operational losses, yes, but name me a SL club who hasn't got a red balance sheet. We have plenty of cash (DH does). What was questioned was why Ian Lenegan was allowed to hold the club to ransom over his investment.
I repeat..no loans, no overdraft....pretty healthy so long as DH is prepared to invest.

Quote: W.R.L.F.C "know you havent had hand outs'"
SO DO WE......

Quote: W.R.L.F.C " but 7 million pounds lost, sounds bad to me.'"
....but all our bills are paid, as are the wages.......thank god for DH........kind of like Mr O'connor at Widnes.

Quote: W.R.L.F.C "All im saying if it happend to most other clubs on the business side alone you would be out wouldent u?'"
. No.......no rules have been broken...we have plenty of cash available but the issue of lenegans share holding needed to be sorted...it has been!
Quote: W.R.L.F.C "Im tipping u to beat warrington friday, for widnes after them winning that cup again Now I know you are mad! d040.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: W.R.L.F.C "I heard it on boots and all, that David Hughes had been pumping money in like there was no tommorow,Up to 7 million out of his own pocket, and business side still wasnt working and he had to pull out.And then i read that the wigans ian lenagan couldent get rid of his shares as the business wasnt making anything but losing.
I will leave it at that then not starting an argument good luck,Sounds to me like every 1 is going over the top about this then.
Im of back to our board as we have, exiting times ahead at widnes now, going good and should be joining u 2012 as b0ll0x goes...this post is up there with the best.
David Hughes has not pulled out....he has managed to get the RFL to sort out IL. DH has invested his own money, but was no longer prepared to invest on IL's behalf as well. IL was living in a dream world if he thought he was going to get a ROI on his investment...and the RFL have told him as much. He gave assurances he would get rid of his quins shareholding, he didn't. As I say, Wigan should be punished icon_cool.gif
As for going OTT......they say ignorance is bliss, so no wonder you're so happy.

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Quote: gutterfax "Wrong again sherlock!
We have a backer who owned 35% of the club was having to cover 100% of the losses. As it is, we have no losses as he has covered them.......operational losses, yes, but name me a SL club who hasn't got a red balance sheet. We have plenty of cash (DH does). What was questioned was why Ian Lenegan was allowed to hold the club to ransom over his investment.
I repeat..no loans, no overdraft....pretty healthy so long as DH is prepared to invest.

SO DO WE......

....but all our bills are paid, as are the wages.......thank god for DH........kind of like Mr O'connor at Widnes.

. No.......no rules have been broken...we have plenty of cash available but the issue of lenegans share holding needed to be sorted...it has been!
Now I know you are mad! Fair enough gutter-fax ,Like i said i think every 1 is going overboard with all this, if it is as you say,They need to read the small print before jumping in, bye for now, and yes prob mad thinking u would beat warrington but wishful thinking on my behalf icon_biggrin.gif

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Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
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Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 28 682 479 203 32
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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