As I said previously Saints are not the best pack at present, Jon Wilkin looked good on a strong pack, Louis will take some stick if he does not come up with the goods for them, more so as fans simply do not rate him they think any of their young players are better and that is a real Joke!

No point posting this. I've realised GF is actually a piece of malware running via a huge botnet. Apparently the author is no longer maintaining the code so we are stuck with the same stuff over and over again.

Big props and the like should not be a problem in London. Have You walked through Hounslow on a Saturday night.? Some of the east Europen lads are effing huge and look like they could be useful running at a 12 stone full back

There you go then. There are some fans to return.

What drug are you taking?

First of all, a lot of Saints fans think very highly of LMS. I have yet to come across one that does not, actually, either online or on the terraces.

Secondly, our pack is not our problem, when we have all the players fit of course (we've been missing Maurie for three months now). But even without Maurie, we still have a good pack. Our backline is the problem although our young players have brightened it up lately.

Speaking of young players ... the guys who have been playing for us this season to cover injuries were all part of the Academy Grand Final winning side of 2008, plus Scott Moore, Kyle Eastmond and Gary Wheeler, who are a bit older. I think having won the Grand Final in your competition, this would suggest you have talent. We don't have the same talent coming through this year. Just one player has been promoted: a young halfback called Lee Gaskell who had his debut against Catalans a few weeks ago. When Jamie Foster, Jonny Lomax, etc, came through, seven were promoted in one go, all bar one of whom have had regular first game time. It's quite possible that we won't see that number of talented young players coming through again for some time. We have just gotten lucky. But we are all very proud of our young players, as Quins are of theirs. That's perfectly normal, and as it should be. IMO, obviously.

www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley/ ... _good.html First official acknowledgement that LMS will not be at Harlequins RL next year, and that he will most likely be playing against Quins for St Helens.

www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley/ ... _good.html First official acknowledgement that LMS will not be at Harlequins RL next year, and that he will most likely be playing against Quins for St Helens.

What is your problem with Saints jaybs,you must have a real grudge against your so called home town club.

No Grudge! just Truth hurts sometimes, as the old Rugby Leaguer weekly heading used to say "All for The Good of The Game" and that is the motto I follow not just Quins RL but want to see the game itself succeed, unlike those who only have interest in their own club.

As a Saints fan i think LMS is a belting singing for the club. He is a young lad with all the raw talent needed to be nurtured. Playing alongside James Graham and Josh Perry would improve any player. Looking forward to seeing him in a redvee (if true, of course).

It's obvious, now I think about it!

I have always said that the game first,club second in fact I started a thread a few months ago on the VT about this very same subject so to say that the so called truth hurts I could not agree more.

There are a lot of Quins fans who formerly supported other clubs from their home towns. I know I am one of them. It is hard to imagine swapping support from your childhood team but as Marx said " Conditions govern conciousness" and Stephen Stills " Love the one your with". You eventually take the attitude, and it takes time, London needs you more than your home town team. Yes, my relatives call me a traitor, so what. If you don't you stop watching and miss your real love - RL.

Excellent comment