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Quote: wire-quin "Didn't he ref us verses Saints last year when we got zero penalties. Probably never heard of before.'"


Saints were on fire that day, it didn't matter who was reffing, Saints battered a very depleted QRL team.


Quote: wire-quin "He gave them 4 penalties that day. Granted a low penalty count overall but whoever heard of a home side not getting even one??? Pretty sure it will never happen at any other ground.'"


As said, Thaler was insignificant that day due to the sheer quality of a rampant Saints team.

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Quote: Bat Fastard "Saints were on fire that day, it didn't matter who was reffing, Saints battered a very depleted QRL team.'"


Apart from Rikki Sheriffe, who was doing a bit of battering himself, particularly when it came to Maurie Fa'asavalu.

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Not exactly our lucky ref.

Ben has seen our team succumb to some right old shallackings (Leeds 48-0, Saints 58-12, 0-54 Saints and 12-66 Cas).

But we love Ben Thaler, coz he's just a lad... icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Bat Fastard "Saints were on fire that day, it didn't matter who was reffing, Saints battered a very depleted QRL team.

As said, Thaler was insignificant that day due to the sheer quality of a rampant Saints team.'"


Not arguing with that one jot. Just making the point that not giving any penalties to one side (especially the home side) is I think a unique occurence. Didn't cost us anything in that game but if it had happened in other games last season - especially those where the ref was unquestionably the difference between the two sides (Catalans (H&A), Wakey (A), Leeds (CC) etc)- it would have been another justified case for complaint on our part. I would hope and imagine that the Wakey game this weekend will be closer than the Saints demolition last season so I'm concerned that yet again the ref will be the key difference.

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As it's top v joint bottom of Sky's Fairplay league, the penalty count should be interesting!

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "As it's top v joint bottom of Sky's Fairplay league, the penalty count should be interesting!'"

well spotted.
we should be ahead on the penalty count by 2 to 1......but somehow I doubt it.

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lemme get this straight. we had the french ref for our game against the french team and now the wakefield ref for our game against wakefield icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Darthchris "lemme get this straight. we had the french ref for our game against the french team and now the wakefield ref for our game against wakefield
Correct....and as we speak the RFL are scouring the land for a local St Helens ref for our game on the 22nd!!!

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Under the sticks "Correct....and as we speak the RFL are scouring the land for a local St Helens ref for our game on the 22nd!!!'"

Ganson....off down the bookies now icon_cool.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Ganson....off down the bookies now Didn't we have Ganson for our second home game with Saints last year? The one where we were in front in the second half before Ade Gardner was awarded a crucial try after being held up?

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I can't go with all this ref-bashing I'm afraid.....though I get as one-eyed as the best of 'em. If we're good enough, we'll win - if we're not, we'll lose. We can all think of examples where we think the decision was the wrong 'un but it does even out and in all probability the punter is wrong about the call anyway. As often as not in these cases the ref is right - especially when viewed on replay on the ol' boob tube later on that night.....

None of this takes away from the times when they do get it wrong but that's just the luck of the draw, human error - call it what you will - nowt to do with bias!

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Good to see that the ludicrous, unscientific `it all evens our theory` is alive and well icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Ken Edwards "I can't go with all this ref-bashing I'm afraid.....though I get as one-eyed as the best of 'em. If we're good enough, we'll win - if we're not, we'll lose. We can all think of examples where we think the decision was the wrong 'un but it does even out and in all probability the punter is wrong about the call anyway.'"


2007 - Top of the Fair Play League
2009 - Currently Top of the Fair Play League

2007 - Fewest penalties received
2008 - Fewest penalties received
2009 - So far, Fewest penalties received

So what that means is each time a team plays the Harlequins they play the most disciplined 80 minutes of rugby they have played all season.

Sure.

No one who follows this club will be convinced very easily that it does all get evened out.

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Hang on. is this not Ben ' I am a Wakey lad' Thaler?

We have our excuses already!

Blimey, guv when are we gonna get a Cockney ref?

Anyone up for singing in the rain?

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We're not all Southern Softies:



Can't make it this Sunday cos I'm working.
Will try to listen on the net, so I hope to hear all the home fan's singing:

"We love Ben Thaler,
Cos he is just a lad,
We love Ben Thaler,
Cos he ain't got no dad,
We love Ben Thaler,
Harleqins, through & through."

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