Over the years, our attendance figures are consistantly very good as are our season ticket sales and we have never had to embrace anything for ''survival''? In fact, they increased since the arrival of a Premiership club so your information is totally incorrect.

In general, people in Wigan do not choose between football or Rugby as they are either one sport or the other.

The ''new'' Latics supporters aren't ex-Wigan RL supporters, they are ex-Man United, Liverpool, Everton or Man City general football supporters who have now got a Premiership team or their own.

For a Premiership club, Wigan Athletics attendances are abysmal and although they might get higher gates than the Rugby, Rugby League is still the most popular sport within the town by far.

....embellished for effect I admit. But believe me, your community program have worked overtime since Latics made the top flight to make sure this is the case. (I was actually thinking forward to this and next season and your dwindling support as you achieve zip on the field. Let's see you embrace your community program then)

The most pertinent fact you make here is that Latics fans attend in bigger numbers despite RL being more popular and having far more heritage. What does that say about Football v RL fans! They are different monsters.

Let's get back to the one simple inexorable fact. Rugby is a community sport. Every club in the land has developed its fan base through years and years of being involved in the community through the amateur game and through schools. For those that don't believe it, I suggest you investigate the work of the modern day pioneers, Gary Hetherington and Pete Deakin (RIP).

Incidentally, I hear (allegedly) that the vote last year was conducted online and only the hardcore few voted. That's not representative and it's hardly in the best interests of London RL in 5 years time.

Well im Chelsea and i know mine you Rangers half-wit.

Brilliant - I hear many of them go on an instinct, somewhat like the Salmon of the Capastrano, hoping they can find pops in the crowd...

Brilliant ! oh dear how sad !!!

IL also told us that it's standard practice to count season ticket holders even if they don't actually turn up on the day. I'm one such, so there must have been at least 4001 to count.

Spoke with a few others who were at the game and the majority of opinion was that there were no more than 250 empty seats in the East stand, meaning the gate was reported incorrectly. The problem/question is, WHY?
Also, the bar staff????What is going on??? The guy sat in front of me on Saturday missed 13 minutes of the game when he nipped in for a refill after about 15 minutes of the first half
Also, (as an ex-publican I can comment on this) why don't the staff start pulling pints 10 minutes before half time??? If the 1 stand policy is to be a hit, then the players bar at the top end of the Kings should be opened as well, together with a beer truck in the concourse. Lastly, why are there only about 6 jugs available...Surely the opportunity to sell 4 pints at a time is one that should be exploited further??
Great day out on Saturday but still a few tweeks needed to get it spot on.

How many people missed part of the second half in the queue for the toilets? Ridiculous.

Toilets at the end of the East Stand were half empty.

The toilets at the ends aren't usually busy, it's the one's in the bar at half time and the end of the game.

behave yourself. Griffin park was a toilet nightmare compared to the stoop. There are plenty of loos at either end of the stand and in the bar area....

I suspect there were far more than 250 gaps, it's just that they were thinly distributed, which creates the illusion of more tickets sold than reality e.g. if the unsold seats were in blocks it would be more obvious.

Have to admit as a Disabled supporter and get to sit in the Lexus Stand Balcony. when looking over it did look quiet full. There didnt sem to as many gaps in crowd compared to Wigan game.
I dont know if they only print a limtied number of tickets, but i was talking with a steward when it came over his radio that they had run out of tickets.