Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Firstly it's Leigh not liegh'" Thanks.....pedantry is a sure fire sign that you've little of substance in the way of argument. Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Secondly what has that link got to do with youth development? Thirdly try this link www.tommysaleyouth.co.uk/content/about/ And this link https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/leigh-community-trust/ And maybe have a look at how many kids play in the area'" Yep....loads of kids in a RL area play RL. What I asked was how Leigh with there 135+ year head start compare to Toronto in terms of trying to develop or attract players to the game. What you've posted is nothing more than an announcement that: Quote northernblokeThe starting point will be establishing a Category 3 Academy and Reserve Grade for 2018.'" ...and a fluffy PR story about getting kids to stop bullying other kids and getting ex servicemen to games and other activities that any community based club should be doing. Again, with 138 years to 1 year, how much better is the Leigh development program than the Toronto one?Surely with all thse kids playing RL in the area, they could produce their own Centre rather than shopping in the NRL

Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Firstly it's Leigh not liegh'" Thanks.....pedantry is a sure fire sign that you've little of substance in the way of argument. Quote northernbloke="northernbloke"Secondly what has that link got to do with youth development? Thirdly try this link www.tommysaleyouth.co.uk/content/about/ And this link https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/leigh-community-trust/ And maybe have a look at how many kids play in the area'" Yep....loads of kids in a RL area play RL. What I asked was how Leigh with there 135+ year head start compare to Toronto in terms of trying to develop or attract players to the game. What you've posted is nothing more than an announcement that: Quote northernblokeThe starting point will be establishing a Category 3 Academy and Reserve Grade for 2018.'" ...and a fluffy PR story about getting kids to stop bullying other kids and getting ex servicemen to games and other activities that any community based club should be doing. Again, with 138 years to 1 year, how much better is the Leigh development program than the Toronto one?Surely with all thse kids playing RL in the area, they could produce their own Centre rather than shopping in the NRL

describe how Liegh have a better youth system than Toronto

I will describe for you!
Leigh have a youth system, Toronto don't, is that simple enough description.

www.rugby-league.com/kingstone_p ... -westerman Classic Toronto youth development using yr own analogy dog!

www.rugby-league.com/kingstone_p ... -westerman Classic Toronto youth development using yr own analogy dog!

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Trying to spread the game and attract athletic young men to the sport locally......as with London, you can't just pull quality RL players out of thin air year 1.....but they will get there eventually.
Leigh have has 138 years........

Ddi Hendo make a statement or has he just picked up and gone?

from the club site

So no 2 of yr top 3 then god means Toronto should not qualify for franchise then? Just saying!

Check out Ralph Rimmer's quote at a Bradford Bulls supporters event recently. He laid out 4 return on investment criteria teams will be expected to meet to get central funding. Toronto meet two on the spot, providing a new audience and new funding. London arguably meet one, providing new playing resources.

The world is changing. London have a serious chance of getting a franchise. If they don't it's game over. Semi pro from here on. I think it is fairly well known I am a joint season ticket holder at Broncos and Oxford. I'm expecting to be told tomorrow that I only have one team to watch next year. New central funding rules are kicking in and London need to work to them or else.....

as the RFL now allow you to have fingers in many pies after stopping pieman Lennigan investing in us as well as Wigan maybe Lennigan and Toronto will form a consortium to keep us in a super league if it goes the franchise route. Then I woke up

Toronto seem to tick quite a few boxes......I say seem because some think they have over reported crowds.


They are backed financially (as are we...but they seem to do more than just accept the handouts and wait for more)
They have a plan which they make no secret of and have ambition, huger and expertise in place.
They market themselves and the game to the extreme
They cost traditional clubs nothing....nada....zilch. If anything, they attracted some of the bigger crowds to their away games this year.

I'd have Toronto in tomorrow in a newly formed and franchised SL before the likes of Salford, Wakefield, London, Huddersfield et al......they have started with aplomb but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and as we're not getting that just yet, let's see how they build on their stellar work in year 2.....3 and 4.
If they are a top 4 Ch team next year, then anything can happen.........and on paper they are the strongest side in the division thus far.

Your top 3 criteria
Financially stable!!! Are Toronto not a rich mans toy at the moment?
Youth development! Toronto don't have any.
Stadia! Sub standard pitch for NL1.
So by your top 3 requirements Toronto don't qualify

They are currently stable
The are currently trawling the continent for new players
They play in a stadium that is adequate for the climate that they play their games in......I've seen little complaint about uncovered seating.

BTW...the irony of anyone from London questioning a stadium or calling it substandard is quite delicious........we play out of a wedding venue FFS.



You seem intent on arguing with me on many points purely because it's me.......you really have no basis to argue against the point that Toronto have started light years ahead of where we were after 20 years in the top flight....they are fully deserving of praise as we are fully deserving of ridicule.

If Henderson had any inkling that we'd be in SL any time soon he would have stayed...he didn't! Toronto will be in the mix at the end of next year and we won't.....