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Quote: stayinlondon "Couldnt we buy into it and develop it along with Esher RU. '"


Esher are currently in the very early stages of their own redevelopment plan which would see "a new stand / stadium on the car park side of the ground."

Doubt we have enough money to get involved with it sadly but there are precious few new stadiums likely to be built in London in the next few years so not too many options for us really. Not totally sure Esher would want a Superleague standard ground either, wouldn't be cheap to maintain and could be a bit soul-less for their games given their crowd size and it's hard to see them growing their support base much with Quins on the doorstep.

(New grounds I can think of are AFC Wimbledon probably, Brentford FC but Wasps look like moving in with them, Barnet FC being finished now but a low capacity for SL. If Ealing Trailfinders RFC keep progressing they may need to redevelop but again surely not to SL standard.)

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probably wouldnt cost much more than 3 years rent at the Stoop and we would have a say in it bet the rnets niot cheap at Twickers t's in Hersham not Esher so in a cheaper bracket

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I'm sure I've heard the figure of £250k p.a. rent muttered. I suspect Esher would want a lot more than £750k for a share of the freehold of a site that big in that part of the world. I'm not an estate agent though and may be wrong.

The fact that we are leaving Twickers basically because we can't afford the rent (Forty-20 magazine) suggests that competing in two years time will be an achievement, never mind owning a share of our own ground.

Please please let me be wrong...........

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Quote: Halfdan of t'wide embrace "I'm sure I've heard the figure of £250k p.a. rent muttered. I suspect Esher would want a lot more than £750k for a share of the freehold of a site that big in that part of the world. I'm not an estate agent though and may be wrong.

The fact that we are leaving Twickers basically because we can't afford the rent (Forty-20 magazine) suggests that competing in two years time will be an achievement, never mind owning a share of our own ground.

Please please let me be wrong...........'"


I can't believe we would leave The Stoop becuase of the rent. If those figures are correct , we get a good deal.

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Quote: jbuzza "I can't believe we would leave The Stoop becuase of the rent. If those figures are correct , we get a good deal.'"


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Esher sounds like a nice ground for a Championship club. Depending on what happens with DH and the next round of licencing, applications for which have, incidentally, to be in by the end of the year, would it be a convenient bolt hole for us or a potential phoenix club?

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What happens to Orients ground if they move out, redevelopment?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Rooster Booster "In the meantime, all the "facts" are circumstantial and we are not moving to protect the pitch for a game in a couple of weeks time.'"


Circumstantial eh RB?

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And now we know rather than guessing. YETgutterfax wrote


Still coating off the CEO? Professionally and not personally of course. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: jbuzza "It was fairly obvious all along really.'"



Best to know the facts though ain't it JB?

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Quote: Horatio Yed "What happens to Orients ground if they move out, redevelopment?'"


Clearly it's a bit hypothetical given the current inhabitants have no confirmed plans to move out however........... Leyton Orient no longer own the stadium. It was transferred to a company controlled by their Chairman, who cited the amount of money he has lost on the club to date as the reason behind the transfer. Orient are now on a lease, 25 years from memory, initially free but with rent due to kick in around now. A pledge has been made that if the company profits from re-development funds will be shared with the club. Given both the holding company and football club would have a financial interest in redevelopment if the ground does become free...............

The flip side is it may not become free. Whilst the owner has talked about relocating due to West Ham moving in on their doorstep - I have seen Harlow cited as a possible new location - however the rules have changed since Wimbledon did their midnight flit to Milton Keynes and I'm not sure Leyton Orient would be allowed to relocate to Harlow permanently. (When Rotherham had to move to Sheffield a firm date was put in the agreement by which they had to be back in Rotherham or face potential expulsion from the football league, 5 years I think.)

Edited to add this link. The Leyton Orient Chairman is openly talking about re-locating.

www.harlowstar.co.uk/Sport/Footb ... 100829.htm
Quote: Horatio Yed "What happens to Orients ground if they move out, redevelopment?'"


Clearly it's a bit hypothetical given the current inhabitants have no confirmed plans to move out however........... Leyton Orient no longer own the stadium. It was transferred to a company controlled by their Chairman, who cited the amount of money he has lost on the club to date as the reason behind the transfer. Orient are now on a lease, 25 years from memory, initially free but with rent due to kick in around now. A pledge has been made that if the company profits from re-development funds will be shared with the club. Given both the holding company and football club would have a financial interest in redevelopment if the ground does become free...............

The flip side is it may not become free. Whilst the owner has talked about relocating due to West Ham moving in on their doorstep - I have seen Harlow cited as a possible new location - however the rules have changed since Wimbledon did their midnight flit to Milton Keynes and I'm not sure Leyton Orient would be allowed to relocate to Harlow permanently. (When Rotherham had to move to Sheffield a firm date was put in the agreement by which they had to be back in Rotherham or face potential expulsion from the football league, 5 years I think.)

Edited to add this link. The Leyton Orient Chairman is openly talking about re-locating.

www.harlowstar.co.uk/Sport/Footb ... 100829.htm


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Quote: Rooster Booster "Best to know the facts though ain't it JB?'"

can't bring yourself to admit that I was right though, can you icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

It was bolted on that they were protecting THEIR pitch....at some stage late last year, our CEO negotiated 12 more months at the stoop......if Harlequins got to include a clause that allowed them to move us at 2 days, or even 7 days notice, then he should be fired immediately IMHO......ing laughing stock of the professional sporting world is what he's single handedly turned the club into....1,136 fans is an undefendable attendance. icon_twisted.gif

As for the professional side of things, as opposed to the personal, I don't know him on a personal level, but in his professional life, he is very much in the public domain and fair game......he's was keen to get a mention in dispatches after the Win at Castleford...

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Quote: gutterfax "he's was keen to get a mention in dispatches after the Win at Castleford...'"


He'd be better off concentrating his biggup efforts here.

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Quote: gutterfax "he's was keen to get a mention in dispatches after the Win at Castleford...'"


He'd be better off concentrating his biggup efforts here.

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Quote: gutterfax "can't bring yourself to admit that I was right though, can you

Oh dear. having already said that if we moved the Bradford game you'd be shown to be right. You still come on here begging for plaudits, attention and appreciation. Really shows people how you think. "Look at me everyone, I'm right" "I picked up on someone else saying the game would be moved cos of Quins RU, then I said, that wasn't my point, then I said it was, when it looked like I might be right. LOOK AT ME EVERYONE. Gus rings me, he's got my number, I'm important.

As for personal, you don't know him so why suggest he takes it up the gary or tell us to use our imagination as he sucks the boss off. And you constantly swear about him which the filters on here change. Even when you talk about him professionally you do so in a very unprofessional manner.

This isn't about you Gutterfax. It isn't, it's about something far more important I'm afraid. Stop looking for brownie points. Stop seeking attention.

I'll leave you with the notion that attention seekers have to have to the last word. So off you go then. Spit it out.

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