The bunker in aus still look at onside offside at any kick before anything, the bunker in aus still make some calls that are debatable.
Sadly we are way behind the aus game when it comes to tv and vid refs, they televise every game and have vr at every game.
Like I have said before, the problem that has been made with the VR is the sky coverage, if the ref asks for foot in touch at a try, then it's seen he has missed a poor grounding refs get slated again!!!! So looking at everything sadly makes sense.
Reality is, and I know this from experience, some players don't know the rules, a lot of fans don't! Some on here are very knowledgable some shocking, so who do you get on the working group?

One day NB you will open your eyes and see what we all see the refs and officials are crap and this needs over hauling we have lost major games from poor decisions especially last night. Like you they appear not to give 50 /50 decisions if someone upsets them (your words a couple of days ago) When a team gets the wrong and poor decisions time after time it must be difficult not to question a ref. 90% OF FANS cannot be wrong about the so called professional refs the amateurs do a better job.

This... the turning point of the game 3 minutes before half time, where we were given a penalty and Sammut should have kicked the ball well over the touchline, but he didn't. You can see clearly the Wire player touching the ball from that Sammut kick and has his foot on the line with the touch judge less than 5 meters behind the incident. He must have seen that being so close. A converted try was scored from the subsequent set leaving us just 14-10 ahead at the break.

Cracking picture, only problem is you cannot see his hand or arm on the ball, go back 2 frames when his foot is off the floor when he makes first contact with the ball, it's a difficult call is his forearm still touching the ball when his foot lands?
run it at normal speed, then critisise, at the moment every London fan says he was on the floor, call it the other way every wire fan says he was still in the air.
touchy has to make a snap decision at full speed without slow motion.
Was it his error or was it sammuts error for not getting the ball out.
it was a 50/50 I agree, it went against us, does not make him a bad touchy.
for me and I am a London fan don't forget he was off his feet when he hit the ball, was his forearm still touching it when he landed , you can't tell from that picture or the tv shot.
that was not the deciding point of the game!

I do find it quite interesting that no one is arguing the Dixon try! To every wire fan, I put money on they are saying it was a double knock on! That one went our way and we are not knocking the VR for that one, it was the touchy that saw it by the way and suggested it should be checked. Few of the london players were watching it on the monitor by Angela powers, and thought it came of the forearm and then bounced fwd into sammuts hands, VR saw it as his chest. One is a knock on the other isn't, that one went our way.

NB - you are quite right. The Dixon try was one of the incomprehensible decisions made by those assisting the ref. Indeed, one of many. Child had a terrible night - the Hughes knock-on in the Hiku try was just as bad; and Atkins was inexplicably rescued by him twice, the latter call on 78 mins, killing the game in a rather sinister manner. It is difficult to imagine a more inept VR performance (though I am told we had one on Friday night).

As I said earlier, poor Liam Moore was badly let down. We fans were let down.

Anyone closer to the action have a view on the tackle in the last minute? I was stood on the opposite touchline so it wasn't clear but my impression was of a late tackle, possibly a cannonball? Thought it was a penalty.

It was a penalty and very clear on sky and the touch judge could not possibly have missed it unless he has a white stick.

The reason it was not given as a penalty! Ref had not called held, so legitimately he can join the tackle. Contact was midrift or top of thighs at worse, so no cannonball, he wasn't slowing the ptb down cos it was last, so there was no legitimate penalty. No dangerous contact, no effect on the next ptb, can't say it was late as tackle had not been called complete even though he was on one knee.
Interestingly the bench had it been a penalty gave the players the choice of go for draw or go for win.
TJ raiseed his flag didn't he? So he didn't miss it! Ref made the call of turn over I think with vr help

NB is the cannonball an offence against the rules, when executed before the ref shouts held?

Third man in hitting the legs you wouldn't think is against the rules more a morale thing. Don't the NRL make the third man in come in at waist height?

It wasn't a cannonball though, look where he came in it was at worst round his upper thigh dixon actually had one knee on the ground. Not defending it, it was a stupid thing to do, but there was nothing they could penalise him for, I wanted the penalty as much as anyone.
Any cannonball tackle is dangerous and should be a yellow! As for the NRL so what? We don't play NRL

So you've missed the question,

Is the cannonball an offence against the rules, when executed before the ref shouts held?

I'm not interested in the NRL, or Dixon or anything else (a bit like is it grounding or not, forget onside offside)