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I am hoping for a reduction in membership prices as we are in a lower league now, and I am assuming it will include our "super 8" and possibly million pound match. Last year was expensive for what we had to endure!

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I get the impression at the Tower Bridge event that it was all in the hands of Barnet - I did wonder if the ticket prices would be the same as last season - SL v Championship. I've 2 memberships since last season and I guess it will revert to £20 from next month. I guess its one part of the operation that Broncos don't have control over.
Dont hold your breath ...

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: roger "I get the impression at the Tower Bridge event that it was all in the hands of Barnet - I did wonder if the ticket prices would be the same as last season - SL v Championship. I've 2 memberships since last season and I guess it will revert to £20 from next month. I guess its one part of the operation that Broncos don't have control over.
Dont hold your breath ...'"

I was told in July that AK and the Hive weren't happy to proceed in 2015 along the same lines as 2014. What I wasn't told was exactly what part or parts of the arrangement they weren't happy with.
It would seem that the delay in issuing ticketing info points to that being one of (if not the only) area that needed to be renegotiated, although the loss of our office space at Underhill as well as change of training pitch location may have to be factored in as well.
Personally, I'd prefer to see Hughes pay AK rent for the home games and training facilities and let him keep the bar/food revenue in return for the office space and for the club to keep all match ticket, season membership and shop revenues.
As for pricing? We are down to the bare bones of support now. I doubt the hard core that are left will stop coming if it remains at a score a game....and the number of away fans will be minimal.

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I think we may be surprised about away fans. Apart from Wigan/, Leeds etc not all SL teams brought lots of fans. There may be a novelty factor for some Championship teams!

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Agree with you about away fans, don't forget apart from Bradford it's a new ground to visit

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: brian2 "I think we may be surprised about away fans. Apart from Wigan/, Leeds etc not all SL teams brought lots of fans. There may be a novelty factor for some Championship teams!'"

As you can no doubt imagine, I have a comprehensive spreadsheet of all SL attendances for games either in the Capital or home games taken on the road.
Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Bradford are numbered 1-4 in the draw-ometer....I don't count teams like PSG who attracted a big crowd....and then vanished.
I've always taken Huddersfield, Salford and Catalans as the litmus test for actual crowds we can expect to attract on our own......with the "bigger" SL sides, there are always a good number of ex-pat northerners who will attend to watch "their" team......and given the average attendance in the Championship last year was 1,095, I suspect that Bradford, Leigh Fev and maybe Fax aside, we won't see many away fans.

I don't disagree with Michael that the "new place to visit" will impact a little, but it didn't impact last year when it was a new place to visit and you were pretty much guaranteed 2 points as well! eusa_whistle.gif

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1,217 fans watched us defeat Fev in the cup in 2013.....1,000 less than our season average. The Year before, 652 saw us defeat Desbury in the cup....1,900 less than our average that year.

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Cup games weren't part of the season ticket, so attendance was extra - although only £10 if I recall. These games are always down on normal attendances, not really relevant.
How many were at the Barrow game? I seem to remember that being a dismal turnout.

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Quote: gutterfax "As you can no doubt imagine, I have a comprehensive spreadsheet of all SL attendances for games either in the Capital or home games taken on the road.
Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Bradford are numbered 1-4 in the draw-ometer....I don't count teams like PSG who attracted a big crowd....and then vanished.
I've always taken Huddersfield, Salford and Catalans as the litmus test for actual crowds we can expect to attract on our own......with the "bigger" SL sides, there are always a good number of ex-pat northerners who will attend to watch "their" team......and given the average attendance in the Championship last year was 1,095, I suspect that Bradford, Leigh Fev and maybe Fax aside, we won't see many away fans.

I don't disagree with Michael that the "new place to visit" will impact a little, but it didn't impact last year when it was a new place to visit and you were pretty much guaranteed 2 points as well! From my observations with the Crusaders last season, I think that you've got it about right with the visiting support. Incidentally, the club needs to be a bit wary with Fev - they've an albeit very small number of travelling supporters who were a right Royal pain in the botty (mostly young lads wearing large flat caps) whose behaviour was such that the Cru looked at whether it might be necessary to segregate visiting fans.

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For sl away fans London becomes expensive if you stay over the weekend, so i think for a lot of fans it became a choice of catalan or London. The new ground pull last year is not the same as champ clubs who only got us in the cc.
The fact we were virtually a dead rubber for every club last year with little chance of seeing a decent game was probably quite a factor as well.
Not forgetting that we will probably be seen alongside Bradford as the big fish to beat.

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Gutters does have a point over the other Championship clubs even if he continues to repetitively ram down everyones neck. I suspect we won't be the only club who doesn't has a small away support this season. When Premier Sports suddenly discontinued their coverage of the Championship at the start of 2014, a senior producer said they didn’t lose any subscribers. It turned out the majority of subscribers were paying for the NRL (followed in popularity by ice hockey) not Featherstone, Dewsbury or Workington. Interesting and, perhaps, worrying times ahead.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: mickyb1234 "For sl away fans London becomes expensive if you stay over the weekend, so i think for a lot of fans it became a choice of catalan or London. The new ground pull last year is not the same as champ clubs who only got us in the cc.
The fact we were virtually a dead rubber for every club last year with little chance of seeing a decent game was probably quite a factor as well.
Not forgetting that we will probably be seen alongside Bradford as the big fish to beat.'"

Good for you being positive about potential.crowd numbers in 2015......i hope you're right and we see an increase in attendances at the hive, although I think 700 will be the average myself.

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I never suggested that we would see an Increase in numbers on last year, I suggested that the away support from the championship sides may be higher than folk would expect, I think some of the home fans that we have lost may start to trickle back when the results are a bit more positive. Premier sport lost at least one subscriber, I only had it for champ rugby, it was actually quite entertaining much more so than NRL

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Premier will have lost others. They were offering year long subscriptions. People took them out, premier dropped the Championship and I and others stopped when our year was up.

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "From my observations with the Crusaders last season, I think that you've got it about right with the visiting support. Incidentally, the club needs to be a bit wary with Fev - they've an albeit very small number of travelling supporters who were a right Royal pain in the botty (mostly young lads wearing large flat caps) whose behaviour was such that the Cru looked at whether it might be necessary to segregate visiting fans.'"


There were 2 incidents last season to my knowledge involving Fev fans away that resulted in complaints, the aforementioned one at Cru and one at Leigh (think it involved a plastic bottle being thrown), both were dealt with by the club including some lengthy bans after the second incident. Fev generally travel in decent numbers but with the odd exception the fans are generally noisy but good-natured. There were several hundred (can't remember exact figure but probably 400-500 though to be fair that number was helped by subsidised buses) who came down to the Cup game at the Stoop in 2012 and I don't remember seeing any unsavoury incidents at all, we were in a separate stand but I don't think anyone was out for trouble anyway.

Fev will bring a fair few again, Leigh tend to travel in good numbers these days, Bradford will bring plenty for sure. Fax will probably depend on how they go as a lot of fans seem to have drifted away but if they are going well they are capable of decent away support. Most of the other teams you aren't likely to be seeing great numbers of away supporters, it's a shame Cru aren't in the Championship any more though as their fans though not necessarily big in number were terrific.

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Quote: Southern Reiver "Premier will have lost others. They were offering year long subscriptions. People took them out, premier dropped the Championship and I and others stopped when our year was up.'"

Premier also offered big discounts to anyone who rang up to cancel citing lack of RL Championships as the reason, I rang up to do so but decided to stay for the NRL stuff when they reduced my fee for a few months.

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